@sagal129@ClockworkOranje No one criticised him for signing former players. I was pointing out that he did sign players he wanted.
You're so stupid it hurts to even argue with you, best of luck to you bud
@sagal129@ClockworkOranje I told you before and will say it again, Ten hag was not at fault for everything. Some things were his fault, some things weren't his fault.
To say he did not get players he wanted is disingenuous. So is blaming United's board for his failures to produce on the pitch
@sagal129@ClockworkOranje I never called them flops, please tell me where I did? I said he signed players that were his first choice, while you were crying that he did not get his players.
You're putting words in my mouth and being disingenuous, but then again I didn't expect much from you.
@sagal129@ClockworkOranje Lineups versus Galatasary and Copenhagen. Good enough to win. I'm not saying Ten Hag is shit and undermining what he acheived at Ajax, but it's also acceptable to say he failed at United.
@sagal129@ClockworkOranje Already told you, he signed 5 former players, most of which he pushed for. Casemiro and Mount too. Regardless, a competent coach should be able to perform regardless of the signings he gets, not flop if he doesn't get his first choice.
The injury excuse is laughable.
@sagal129@ClockworkOranje Qualified for European football then finished bottom to in a group containing Gala and Copenhagen. A large portion of signings were his 1st choice, besides a manager should coach whatever he has. Any United fan will tell you he failed. Not everything was his fault, but he failed.
@sagal129@ClockworkOranje In 20 years time you'll still be reminiscing the 2018 season. Move on, he's failed since then.
He spent over €650 million at United, and signed players he worked with (Antony, Lissandro, Onana, De Ligt, Mazraoui) & he failed. United is dysfunctional, but he contributed to that
@sagal129@ClockworkOranje Nonsense hypothetical scenario. Ten Hag was a chequebook manager who made United worse with every signing and clashed with big personalities. No indication he would have made it work at LFC, quite the contrary actually. Ten Hag revisionism is unreal, he set United years back.
@ClockworkOranje 18/19 was impressive but ultimately capitulated to Spurs. His 3 other UCL seasons with Ajax were disappointing, much like European displays with Man United.
Slot has one notable European campaign in 7 attempts. I wish him the best, but I think his trajectory is downwards.
@ClockworkOranje@BasharA27145219 Kompany got relegated from the premier league with one of the worst points tallies. It still didn't stop him from becoming manager. Not many could have done better with that Leicester squad, which has since been relegated from the championship.
@ClockworkOranje Typical Dutch arrogance.
You place too much weight on success in a country that is below Cyprus, Greece, Poland, Czech, and Belgium when it comes to European performance.
What Slot and Ten Hag have achieved in the Netherlands doesn't necessarily translate on the global stage.
The Dutch still produce some of the best players in the world.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for managers. The current crop of Dutch managers lags behind severely compared to top footballing nations. Until this changes, no amount of talent will win them anything.
It pains me to see what a sorry sight Dutch football has become.
Once a footballing powerhouse, it is now plagued by outdated management, no accountability and a culture where failure is normalised.
Worse still, its entitled, toxic media and fanbase consistently miss the mark.
Koeman's setup last night and his willingness to double down on it was scandalous and reflected his lack of faith in his initial 433 approach and players themselves.
A setup befitting of minnows, which the Dutch are not. To criticise anyone but him is laughable & ignorant.