@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal My claim relied on older data, my bad
I don't need to lie, muslims consume alot of porn as well so porn is something universal and not only tied to the west
Only reason it's higher in the west because of cultural taboos and religious restrictions
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal Because the man finds the hair attractive, the man should practice the "equilibrium". The women shouldn't feel the need to cover her hair because some man is demanding "equilibrium" get real dude
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal Western countries mass produce porn because it's legal there.
Check which countries have the highest pornography traffic, most are muslim countries lmao
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal It is a logical fallacy, because you're oversimplifying the argument that "immodest dress= higher SA rates" which isn't even remotely true
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal HDI is overwhelmingly higher in western countries as well as the happiness index
And suicide rate is not a reliable measure because muslim countries often underreport and the fact that it's haram makes a comparison really stupid here
@Soleglad2409@TughlaqiVandal Dudes fuck off from their 3rd world shitholes and suddenly become ummah pilled keyboard warriors flexing their newly acquired EU passports to 3rd worlders😭😭😭
@Soleglad2409@TughlaqiVandal You're really one retarded fuck😭😭
Firstly, doesn't even understand what I said
Secondly, makes fun of my passport and calls me third world
Thirdly, thinks I'm making fun of moroccans
And I'm not speaking about traditional values, China is overwhelmingly atheist
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal You're arguing on a different point, I'm not talking about attraction
And I know female hair can attract attention, but it doesn't mean anything
Just because you see beautiful hair doesn't mean you become horny and aroused and wanna have sex with her
And this part is on the man
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal We target those by media literacy and education, not by forcing everyone to dress the same
We're maximizing human well being here and pushing back against objectification
As we know, islamic countries are worse in terms of objectification, pornography etc
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal Nobody cares if islam caters to these standards or not, islam should give people the right to choose what they want to wear
And conflating immodest dress with SA is literally a logical fallacy
And islamic countries are worse in terms of pornography, sexualization...
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal HDI and happiness indices are much higher under countries that operate with secular ethics.
Secular ethics don't cater to one people only
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal There's no "objective" data my guy😭
But secular ethics are better because they rely more on empirical evidence rather than a "god said so" system
Secular ethics give you more freedom to choose to live the life you want to live, whereas islam doesn't
Not to mention HDI
@nephto2@TughlaqiVandal Islam has no bodily autonomy because of:
Secular ethics rest on the principle of self ownership where as islam rests on divine ownership. So under islamic theology, you literally do not own yourself
Also, Islam fiqh has restrictions on marital status and gender status