@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH I’m not sure how to explain this. When someone is utilized to their strengths, that’s better. If someone isn’t, that’s worse. He was underutilized in Cleveland. Bron & Co. made him worse as a byproduct. Hence his stats suffered.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH Pau played for a far superior team. The strength of their squad was their defensive versatility. The Love-led Wolves had no one outside of him.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH The whole argument was who was better… Love was. It’s not really a debate. You’re trying to make it one. For those who watched the sport in the 2000s, we recognize it’s not. Gasol was never considered a superstar. Love was in the debate in Minnesota.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH You’re very dim. Iso ball with Wade and Kyrie. Bron didn’t sacrifice. Neither did the other iso guy. The stretch bigs did. Every time. To benefit Bron.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH Same player? He became a stretch big who stood waiting for a pass in Cleveland. The offense ran through him in Minnesota. He sacrificed a ton to fit Bron’s preferred offensive style, much like Bosh.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH Love made 2 All-NBA 2nd teams.
Pau made the playoffs on deep Memphis teams. He won the same number of playoff games as Love. We have to stop this participation trophy mindset.
Love was the superior player. Pau was the better fit. Love would have been a better fit around Kobe.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH Was he better with or after LeBron? Iso offense benefits iso guards. You can’t really be this lost. I feel bad picking on you, but damn. Cmon bro.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH You saying you’d take Pau doesn’t make you right. What a silly point. Love was OBJECTIVELY better than Pau before they linked with Bron and Kobe. And it wasn’t even close. We scapegoat Love in order to prop Bron’s GOAT case. And we flex Pau to diminish Kobe’s greatness. Cmon.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH Love did not get worse? 23.5 and 14 on 45% 4 year average before joining Bron. 17 and 10 on 43% over 4 years with Bron.
How many All-NBA teams did Pau make before joining Kobe?
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH Love: 39-38 last season in Minnesota. Next season 16-66.
Pau: 21-61 W/L pace when traded away from Memphis. Next season 24-58.
Again, Kobe helped Pau win. LeBron helped K Love become a scapegoat.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH Your answer is there. Do NBA players play with or without shoes? Undersized at 6’10” 250 while leading the league in rebounds in a season 😭😂
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH Compare them pre-Kobe and Bron. Who was better? Most would say Love. So why did Pau get better playing with Kobe and Love got worse playing with Bron? Hint - style of offense. Triangle versus iso.
@sportingroars@sports_fluent Why are you moving the goalposts? OP - Jordan never won a series as an underdog.
You - “during a title year”
When your best player is that much better than the 2nd best player, and you have a competent team and staff, you will be the favorite.
@oneofunknown@Beez_4Real@WhozMEECH “Undersized big” - 6’10” 250 PF. An inch taller and same weight as Karl Malone.
What’s the goal here? Pau was a 2nd option. Love was a 3rd.
@MadTitan30@booljey@jordankobewade7 Mo Williams was an All-Star who averaged 17 and 5 on 46%. Big Z was a 2x All-Star who was past prime, but reliable. West was a semi-efficient two way guard. Varejao was a defensive menace who rarely allowed second chance points.
This team is a contender with Kobe, MJ, etc.
@zMGx215@MykellthePG Anyone who genuinely thinks referencing stats from games from years ago without having recently watched the footage is disingenuous.