@aequisto@byyndit Two humans can only make other humans. Babies in the womb interact with their environment. By your definition, what happens if someone is in a coma?
@aequisto@TheSurvivors_US By 8 weeks, hands and feet are recognizable. There are people employed by the clinics specifically to put the baby back together to ensure they got it all out ☹️
@___TheGOOdWitch Meanwhile, if the dad harmed the mother and caused her to lose the baby, he would be charged with murder (or a lesser charge depending on the state). But if the mom murders her baby, that's ok. Why? It's about wantedness. The unwanted are discarded, and that is a scary moral line
@mjkaizer@BiteMe284298276@Sassafrass_84 If I were a male who wanted to sleep around and not bear any responsibility, I would also be pro-choice. If I were a man who wanted to love and protect the woman I was with, as well as be a protector of the vulnerable, I would be pro-life. Men who are pro-choice are the red flag
@ali36c@matthaios_x@luvmyjaide Would you support this in the United States? The prominent Ireland case would not happen here. There are currently 0 pro-life bans without life-of-the-mother exceptions
@ali36c@matthaios_x@luvmyjaide It used to be heavily Catholic but is becoming more secular, which means the mass psychosis has spread. Also, something being legal doesn't make it moral. Owning a slvae was legal too.
@ali36c@matthaios_x@luvmyjaide Statistically false. Christians adopt way more children than non-Christians. Also, saying a child should die becasue it would be poor is a very dangerous mindset. I can agree that our systems need reform and still say maybe don't kill babies while that is also being repaired
@ali36c@matthaios_x@luvmyjaide That is a human being (unless this is AI, which is likely) in the early stages of development, just like newborn, toddler etc - same person; the truth is wantedness determines value. And if the person wanted this baby, they would grieve and grieve hard.
@ali36c@luvmyjaide@matthaios_x Fetus means human offspring, but people use it to dehumanize the unborn the same way they did when they said 'just a Jew' and 'just a slave'. Also, as science becomes more advanced, they are discovering that the unborn feel pain earlier and earlier.