@JudaicaMiriam@Donna_Rachel_ Dont you literally have Israel for this scenario you have completely made up in your head. You are doing a fucking genocide to keep israel then not even going there when you wrongly claim to need such a place. the fuck
@maariaris@AaronBastani is trying to understand this. Bless his cotton socks. The problem is once you accept the definition of Zionism, and that its racist (as he does), it then forces you into a very uncomfortable place - genuine introspection!
Liberal Zionists have been so used to everyone politely not mentioning the dark part of their ideology (Jewish state at the *expense and *exclusion of everyone else) they're in shock at the Greens' honesty. Cue denial, disavowal, rejection. Truly a "Wo/man, know thyself" moment.
@Cory_Bants@AaronBastani Jews lived in Palestine before "Israel" was created. Supporting Israel makes you a Zionist, by definition. This is basic stuff
@AaronBastani Because you support the continuation of the state of Israel (the basic definition of Zionism) just alongside a Palestinian one. Even side stepping how unrealistic 2 state is and morality, it is just definitional that if you support 2 state you are a zionist.
No anti-Zionist has ever called me a "kapo".
No anti-Zionist has ever called me a "self-hating Jew".
No anti-Zionist has ever called me an "as-a-Jew".
Zionists do this all the time.
Indeed, the only antisemitism I've ever experienced has come from Zionists.
@TomRHoughton@lewis_goodall As the motion said yesterday, one democratic state for all, between the jordan river and the med sea. I support democracy, not supremacist ethnostates. Call me a radical.