@ClarkeMicah Extraordinary to think of it now. If only the clock could be turned back. Or enough ambition and combined wisdom to put it all back again.
@brownliberite@MyThoughts9231 And a whole bunch of motivated Lanyards sat round a table and agreed to that! We should really ask questions and expect answers.
Up until very recently I thought there was room for good people doing good politics to fix it. Now I’m not so sure anymore. The system as it stands is broken, captured and substantially gamed. The thing that gets me the most is peoples’ capacity to moan and not get off their backsides to vote - how is that even a thing?
It doesn’t work like that, and you probably know that full well. Someone at some time has to step in and look after any given resource - nature, whatever in fact you mean by that, is no different. A common resource will end up being exploited to the point of its qualitative diminution. No amount of regulation or long-reach oversight will prevent that. Hardin had a point.
@JohnRentoul@LizWebsterSBF Professional politician with a professional political team winning a televised political debate. Well, I do suppose it’s a winning of sorts.
@SamaHoole Livestock farming as we know it in Britain, and the families that rely on it, will not last the next 3 years’ of this Government’s term. Either it goes sooner, or farming, and much more within the countryside besides, will perish.
@CA_TimB@CApressoffice@Telegraph Ok. I do suppose you have to have something in the first place in order to then lose it. But how come the Labour Party even had the rural vote in the first place? It was always very evident what lay in store for the countryside with Labour, and yet here we bloody well are!
Yes, agreed. A lot of waking up to be done. Government’s sustained attack on farming will end up in shortages and significant supply issues; it can’t not. All of course as intended. A population even reacting to the prospect of restricted food supplies is quite the thing. Potentially, from a government’s point of view, that carries danger. So, they have a plan. Follow the money, which investors are positioning toward synthetic food?
Yep, there’s nothing like good wildlife management … and this is nothing like good wildlife management! Re-wilding as a set alone land use always and forever a grift driven by questionable and - heavily subsidised, of course - virtue laced ideology. Give the funding to the conventionally run
estate next door instead. Better outcomes all round - including wildlife and habitat.
Couldn’t agree more. Why would anyone in farming, or even within the rural sector more generally, even listen to this lot. The buggers are a long way from finished with the countryside and their intention is to inflict a good deal more damage before they’re done. Have nothing to do with them.
@IANSONPJ If any farmer is inclined to believe any of this then they are fools. This lot are working to a plan and they do intend to follow through with it.
Profit taking along a chain of middle men. It wasn’t always the case, of course: fairs and shows used to operate as more-or-less community events with the key objective of show-casing and as a means of bringing everyone together; wiping the nose of costs was enough. The old CLA game fair a case in point, ruined through profit taking and the shift to seeing exhibitors - an essential component - as mere static cash-cows to be ripped off.
Amounts to little more than a modern-day cultural clearance from the countryside. Land is the key. Net zero and carbon neutrality merely a complex and a bloated publicly funded vehicle to enable this. Traditional land management practice, especially on the scale of the diverse, multi-use landed estate is an incredibly complex and balanced affair; not least for employees and tenants. It is a political choice for our current Green-crazed elites to to undermine that traditional and time-proven model of land management. As BrewDog found to its cost - and there is zero sympathy for it - the reality of sustainable land management practice is far from being an easy Green-grift.
In a tight political space the rural vote suddenly matters again. Considering the policy moonscape Labour has delivered impacting both the countryside and farming, this is both a shallow and quite reprehensible attitude from a recent Cabinet minister. Memories may be short in Westminster, they most definitely are not in the countryside.
No. No he won’t . Super-majority transfers to bonkers level of political power; they’ll never have that again as a Progressive-Left government, and for that reason alone Burnham would never risk it. There is a case for going to a GE earlier than he has to, but what dictates that strategy is a semblance of party political survival when things begin to slip. The vulnerability from dis-unity of the Right may provide the signal to go. Equally, the further coalescing of the ‘rainbow’ Left along agreed principles of ‘unity’ - which the LP can still control - could flash up as the green light. For my money, political instability more like to be the cause of an earlier Election than necessary for Burnham’s Labour. But, in general, this bunch of grim incompetents will hang on in there for as long as they’re able. Damage of every conceivable kind baked in as a certainty because of that.