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@codeRunnerUK @MacRumors Just think of the motive. What motive does the EU have to lie?

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@FabienMusty @MacRumors Answer the question pls

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@LuftkoppTim @samaschke @chluetge Dann erklär doch mal, warum Apple gesundheitsdaten an dritte weitergeben kann und somit dem DMA befolgt, hier aber nicht?

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@tylerdurdensgun @MacRumors But they don’t, they to be the only ones with access to your data, not giving you a choice of who or how to share your data

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@codeRunnerUK @MacRumors The EU states that Apple only requested a blanked 18 month exception and that they denied that.

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@richardhyland @MacRumors The eu has responded to that claim stating they only proposed a 18 month exemption and that they would work on a system after they release Siri AI

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@FabienMusty @MacRumors What parts of it aren’t normal and basic?

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@not_now_dave @MacRumors No they don’t demand “default” access.
They just demand the same level of access for third and first party systems.

Like when Apple added multiple apps in iOS 18 that required system apps to ask for permissions and allowed third party apps to do the same.

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@mrmarek_ @MacRumors Yeah and it was true then too. Apple released all features after a couple of months, the law didn’t change since then

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@kast_anita @LokiEstraven Wenn es bei den Argumenten dünn wird kann man übrigens auch einfach schweigen.

Aber wenn dir das nicht peinlich ist, kannst du auch deine Koks-Posts absetzen

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@kast_anita @LokiEstraven Haha, die AfD würde dasselbe tun, es träfe vlt nur andere

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@kast_anita @LokiEstraven Zb wurden die Konten seiner Frau gesperrt, nach 6 Monaten Gerichtsverhandlung wurden sie wieder freigegeben und jetzt hat man das Konto seiner Mutter gesperrt.

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@kast_anita @LokiEstraven Nur dass in diesen Fällen Gerichte entscheiden, ob deine Konten gesperrt werden.

In diesem Fall werden sie gesperrt und Gerichte müssen entscheiden ob sie wieder freigegeben werden.

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@kom1n @JanKonieczny15 @jewiss @LelloucheNico I suspect Apple is trying to influence users to get the EU to drop the DMA entirely.
They’ve tried with web apps, they’ve tried with Apple intelligence in general (remember when that also came out 6 months later in the EU), and they’ll keep trying

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@kom1n @JanKonieczny15 @jewiss @LelloucheNico It doesn’t, the DMA doesn’t specify how it has to work.

Apple could decide to just give everyone access without permissions, but they could just as easily limit access to everyone (including themselves) with permissions

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@kom1n @JanKonieczny15 @jewiss @LelloucheNico It’s a two-way street.
Third parties need to have access to things Apple has access to, but Apple needs to ask for permissions wherever third parties also need to ask.

For a privacy focused company like Apple this means they could restricting their own access to comply

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@kom1n @JanKonieczny15 @jewiss @LelloucheNico HealthKit also falls under the DMA, and the eu isn’t complaining about it so Apple already knows how to comply.

Equivalent access just means whichever privacy controls user have for third party apps, they also need to have for first parties

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@kom1n @JanKonieczny15 @jewiss @LelloucheNico Context: third party access to health data was available before the DMA ever existed.

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@kom1n @JanKonieczny15 @jewiss @LelloucheNico You’re not making sense. Having “access to data” doesn’t mean unregulated access.

third party health apps for example:
They can also ask for permission to access Apple health data and Apple is fine with giving third parties your most private information, so how is this different

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@TheiMika Privacy means controlling who gets your data.
If you’re only option for AI is Apple, you can’t choose for example to host your own LLM and be even more private.
You’re forced to give Apple access