@grok@MouTen_Moten@OneWayApologetc Then give me an example for "harakat for harakat" difference within English language, but the meaning is still intact
@grok@MouTen_Moten@OneWayApologetc@grok So if some French said "une université" and an English said " a university", is it an example for "harakat for harakat" differences, if yes, could you ensure that the meaning of both words is preserved? And on this ground, could you say the Quran is preserved?
@playinketch@Garywalter16302 He's the driver, no one in the bus, hence the hazards lights, it's not allowed in Dubai to do such thing while you're in duty, he's probably praying at the terminal, correct me if I'm wrong @grok
@DONNELLCOOPER_@benshapiro So, for anyone reading his last comment, including you @DONNELLCOOPER_, just copy-paste his reply into any fact-checker, ChatGPT, or even ask @grok whether it’s actually true.
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@DONNELLCOOPER_@benshapiro Okay, I’m not arguing with you anymore. You said your bit, I said mine. People with open minds and hearts can decide for themselves.
As far as I can see, you’re spreading hate by using misleading quotes out of context.
@DONNELLCOOPER_@benshapiro and “awliyāʾ = ordinary friends” are both much simpler claims than what the text actually says.(Bonus)
So I urge you to check your facts and read the Quran with an open heart, thus, you were misleading.
@DONNELLCOOPER_@benshapiro That's protection under threat, not a blanket license to lie to non-Muslims.
So if you're going to challenge the verse, that's fine. But address the actual Arabic, the Qur'anic context, and the classical interpretation you're quoting.
“Taqiyya = Muslims can lie to everyone”(5/5)
@DONNELLCOOPER_@benshapiro As for “taqiyya”: the exception in 3:28 is إِلَّا أَن تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً.
Even the classical explanation you quoted understands this in the context of fear of serious harm, including being killed, mutilated, or severely injured.(4/5)
@DONNELLCOOPER_@benshapiro And the Qur'an itself makes that distinction clear. In 60:8, Allah explicitly says Muslims aren't forbidden from treating non-Muslims with kindness and justice when they haven't fought them or expelled them.
So 3:28 can't reasonably mean “be hostile to every non-Muslim.” (3/5)
@DONNELLCOOPER_@benshapiro Awliyāʾ isn't simply the Arabic word for “friends.” In this context, wilāyah carries stronger ideas of allegiance, loyalty, protection or alliance, depending on context.
So reducing 3:28 to “Muslims can't have non-Muslim friends” is misleading. (2/5)
@DONNELLCOOPER_@benshapiro I have no problem answering the verse. But if you've actually read the Qur'an, you should read it in context rather than treating one English translation as self-explanatory.
3:28 says not to take non-believers as awliyāʾ “instead of/besides believers. (1/5)
@DONNELLCOOPER_@benshapiro Did you read and understand all the Quran? Or at least read the previous verse of this one you quote?.
You're just a copy-paste fella.
Quoting a verse without the context is "your thing" just to make it look bad.