@dumbteenboy3@DescLoq Siento que es bait por que si fuera asi los distribuidores y sus clientes no serian tan pdjs como para poner el grupo publico y que pongan de fotos de perfil sus caras este tipo de cosas son mas de servidores privados.
@CarrlaOs@sugafixon No son iguales y la palabra golden no estรก registrada so cualquiera lo pude utilizar, tampoco las fotos son iguales y todo lo que provenga del comeback de ATEEZ es referente a su lore dejen el drama y pรณnganse a ver la cuenta regresiva del regreso de BTS y dejen de fastidiar.
Una opiniรณn poco polรฉmica pero Ateez es un grupo con un gran talento que son capaces de ganar grandes premios y merecerlos dejando de lado la popularidad porque en estos tiempos gana mรกs la popularidad que una buena canciรณn.
#ATEEZ#Atiny#kpoptwt
@SANlBERPUNK Army es el fandom mรกs inmaduro y sus acciones lo demuestra y se enojan si les dicen que son niรฑas sin papรกs, con 14 aรฑos y sin vida pero eso lo que ellas mismas hacen ver.
Hi everyone,
There has been some discussion about what Lucas actually said in Freeze. Since context doesnโt always translate well across languages, we would like to point out some oversight in the Eng subtitle provided by SM using the Korean and Chinese subtitles.
TIL: What Lucas said was kept vague, likely on purpose. What he apologised for was his overall attitude and actions before the hiatus, which he characterised as reckless and thoughtless. He did not ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝadmitโ to any particular allegation nor incident.
5:02
๐ฌ๐ง: "I used to be quite the aggressive type."
What he actually said was ๐ฐ๐ท โ์ ๋ ์๋ ์๋ ์ฑ๊ฒฉ์ด ๋ง์ด ์ ์ด์โ = โin the past, my personality was very strong (headstrong, stubborn)โ
This is reflected in the ๐จ๐ณ ๆไปฅๅ่พๆฐๅพๅคง: "Before, I used to have a temper"
(SM has already fixed this)
7:50
๐ฌ๐ง: โIt was all my fault, had I not done that, this wouldnโt have happened.โ
What he actually said was
๐ฐ๐ท โ์๋๋ฉด ์์งํ ๋ค ๋ ๋๋ฌธ์ด์์โ = โbecause honestly, it was all because of meโ
โ๋ง์ฝ์ ๋ด๊ฐ ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ์๋๋ฉด ๋ค๋ฅด์งโ = โhad I not been (acting) like that, it would be differentโ
โIt was all my faultโ would more accurately be ๋ค ๋ด ํ์ด์์. The sub also said โ๋ง์ฝ์ ๋ด๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ์ ํ์ผ๋ฉด ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ์ ๋๊ฒ ์งโ which is different to what he actually said.
๐จ๐ณ โๅฆๆๆๆฒก้ฃไนๅ ๅบ่ฏฅไธไผ่ฟๆ ทๅง": "If I hadn't done it that way, it probably wouldn't be like this"
9:18
๐ฌ๐ง: "I did the things I did in the past because I really was out of my mind."
๐ฐ๐ท: โ์ ๊ฐ ์๋ ์ ์ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ํ ๊ฑฐ๋๋ฉด ์ ๋ ๊ทธ๋ ์ง์ง ์ ์ ์๋์์ด์โ= โWhy I acted like that, is because i really wasnโt normal (well) then.โ
๐จ๐ณ "ๆไปฅๅ้ฃๆ ทๆฏๅ ไธบ ๆๅฝๆถ็็ๅพไธๆญฃๅธธ" - "I was like that before because I was so out of my mind then" (ๅพไธๆญฃๅธธ more literally is "very abnormal" or "very unwell")
=> basically he was saying that his attitude and behaviour were reckless and thoughtless. The "that" is just a general that, not referring to a specific thing.
9:56
๐ฌ๐ง: "I had a lot of strange thought in my head"
๐ฐ๐ท: โํผ์ ์ด์ํ ์๊ฐ ๋๊ฒ ๋ง์ด ํ์ด์โ = "When Iโm alone I overthink." Before this he said โ๋๋ฌด ์ธ๋ก์ ์ด์ ์ง์ง ์ธ๋ก์ ์ด์ ๋ง์โ = "he was really lonely a lot." More context for this in the second tweet
๐จ๐ณ "ๆ็ปๅธธไธไธชไบบ่กๆไนฑๆณ" - "I would often overthink by myself" (่กๆไนฑๆณ in context probably means overthink in a negative, spiraling way, instead of "having a lot of strange thoughts")
=> basically he said his thoughts spiraled uncontrollably when heโs alone/isolated, not just having strange thoughts.
10:09
๐ฌ๐ง: "I didn't know what to do with the frustration I had in me"
๐ฐ๐ท โ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ํธ๋์ง ๋ชฐ๋์ด์ ๊ทธ ๋ต๋ตํ ๋ง์โ = โI didnโt know how to let go of the stifling feeling (inside me)โ
๐จ๐ณ "ๆ้ฝไธ็ฅ้ๆไน่งฃๅผ่ฟไธช็ป ็็ๅคช้ทไบ" - "I didn't even know how to untie this knot (inside my heart). It was stifling."
=> continue with the context of his thought and his emotion spiraling
16:27
๐ฌ๐ง: "I've done a terrible thing"
๐ฐ๐ท โ์๋ ์ ์ ๋ ๋๋ฌด ์๋ชปํ๊ณ โ = โthe me in the past did too many things wrongโ
(if he had said โIโve done a terrible thingโ he would have said ์ ๋ ๋์ฐํ ์ผ์ ์ ์ง๋ ๊ณ instead)
๐จ๐ณ "่ฟๅป็ๆๅ้ๅคชๅคไบไบ" - "the me in the past did too many things wrong"
=> again, he just said that his actions and attitude before the hiatus was not โcorrectโ. He did not directly refer to a particular event.
16:45
๐ฌ๐ง: "Nothing can justify what I've done"
๐ฐ๐ท โ์ด๋ค ์ด์ ๋ก๋ ๊ทธ๋ฌ์ผ๋ฉด ์ ๋์ด์โ = โI shouldnโt have been that way for any reasonโ
๐จ๐ณ "ไธ็ฎกๆไปไน็็ฑ ้ฝไธ่ฏฅ้ฃๆ ท" - "No matter what reason(s) I had, I shouldn't have acted that way"
=> you can see again that heโs just talking about his behaviour and himself before in a very generic overall kind of way.
17:00
๐ฌ๐ง: "I realized many bad things about myself"
๐ฐ๐ท17:00 โ๋์ ๋์ ์ ๋ ๋ง์ด ๊นจ๋ฌ์์ด์โ= โI realized a lot of my weaknesses.โ
(they translated ๋์ ์ as โbad thingsโ but that would more accurately be โ๋์ ๊ฒโ)
๐จ๐ณ "ๆไนๆ่ฏๅฐ ่ชๅทฑ็็ผบ็นๅพๅค" - "I've also realized that I have a lot of shortcomings"
Once again, this is kept very vague so that you as the reader/listener will fill in the blank with your preconception of his action. What he apologised for was his general attitude and the way he acted before the hiatus, not a specific event.
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Bueno ya que cambiaste quien puede dar replay solo para validar tu punto hago un post. No niego el hecho de que a bts lo rebajan por que siempre ha sido asรญ pero si haces lo mismo no puedes despuรฉs quejarte por ello por que tu haces lo mismo , no esperes un abrazo ni un beso +
Bueno, en los aรฑos que llevo y desde que iniciรฉ en Army allรก por el aรฑo 2016 he conocido que a BTS lo han rebajado los 365 dรญas del aรฑo 24/7 durante mรกs de una dรฉcada, multiplicado al hate que le tiran a cada miembro, y dรฉjame decirte mientras mรกs crezcan mayor serรก el hate y no es comparado con los vรญdeos que dices que has visto.
Alguna vez, recuerdo que el Army estaba feliz cuando BTS por primera vez iba a unos premios en EEUU, para probablemente recibir un premio por el Tope Social, lo ganรณ, adivina quรฉ dijeron en esa รฉpoca, muchos hablaron que era un premio de papel. Intentaron rebajar, es mรกs con sus comentarios llenos de envidia los rebajaron, pero la alegrรญa de Army era grande comparado a los comentarios maliciosos, y te contara de muchos otros momentos mรกs pero, en fin.