@TranslucideUS Also, if needed I’m sure they can put grouting cash flows on a trust and use that as collateral on a loan for expansion capex (if they were to need any)
I really don’t see dilution in the horizon.
My concern also, a 30 usd offer would probably leave most shareholders extatic while seriously undervaluing $PESI
I guess we need to wait for some old shareholders capital to rotate before we can go up.
So, I’m getting questions on $PESI today. I always do when the price is down. What I would say is with the award in hand the chief worry with current price action is that $PESI is acquired by one of the many larger players in its field. There is now a massive bullseye on $PESI
@Piotrek0790210@VelvetYammer They diluted in May for this purpose.
The CEO was explicitly saying there are simple upgrades needed in the call. Check the transcript.
I would really appreciate someone provide me with a bearish view on $PESI
Why is this not a high 40s, low 50s stock (on the lower end)?
Just to confirm I’m staying rational
@VelvetYammer Yeah I don’t see any no dilution in the horizon
Hanford EMF volumes have begun, that should stop the operation cash bleed in a few months.
Expansion capex for grouting seems to be covered.
Im holding confidently.
@AG_415 Yeah big picture is: numbers got stupid high and this company is stupid cheap.
Still a few variables up in the air to size just how stupid.
Is 20x really on the board for grouting CFs with a 14yr contract?
Or will the market need clarity on renewal through 2060/70?
Those are unquestionably the numbers we have with the info today.
I just want to understand margins a bit better. For instance:
If we expected 40% margin at 40 usd, wouldnt margins increase w/ price?
¿Are margins similar across the different types of waste they treat?
$PESI CEO Mark Duff on Hanford:
>“The numbers are staggering.”
>"We are modifying our permit to increase [capacity] to over 10 million [gallons/year].”
>“[DOE] demand is expected to get to 9 million gallons by 2030.”
9M gal × $60–70/gal
= $540–630M revenue
× 40% EBIT margin
= $216–252M EBIT
× 10x EBIT
= $2.16–2.52B 2030 EV
÷ 1.10⁴ to discount back to 2026
= $1.48–1.72B incremental EV today
Current $PESI EV: ~$410M
+ $1.48–1.72B Hanford uplift
= ~$1.89–2.13B implied EV
= $90–101/share
Obviously the key assumption is $PESI ultimately capturing the full 9M gal/yr -- but as Duff put it, “the numbers are staggering.”
$DDI What a kindergarten with this special committee - I mean, how long do you need to say that the offer is totally unacceptable? Everything longer than 10 minutes seems like a waste of time.
I do think there’s a caveat here or there (like what % of the contract is already priced in)
Or maybe a bullish one, like what if market prices this more like a utility company and it commands 15-20x multiple
But all-in-all $PESI numbers have gotten stupid high
9m gallons @ 40 usd per gallon
360m net revenue
40% EBIT mg
144m EBIT
10x EBIT multiple: 1,440 mkt cap in 2030 (from grouting alone)
10% discount rate 980m mkt cap in 2026 (again, from grouting alone)
$PESI fair value share price is somewhere in the 40s maybe low 50s