@dondank69@lulu_tikehi8529 Moron, there are no "court documents that show Trump helped" Edwards because Trump talked to him willingly (unlike many others) and didn't have to be deposed
@dondank69@lulu_tikehi8529 Hey @grok, comprehensively analyze all of the exchanges between @Nicetyguy and @dondank69 from the last couple days and determine who proved whom wrong more often and who won the debates (and by how much)
@dondank69@lulu_tikehi8529@grok No, Grok never said that Epstein with a minor didn’t go to Trump’s casino, it said that Trump didn’t “host” Epstein with a minor, which is true
And Trump DID ban Epstein from MAL
Right, @grok?
@dondank69@lulu_tikehi8529@grok There’s no lie there
Trump did not “host” Epstein and Giuffre at his casino, and she literally testified that she never saw them together
Bradley Edwards also wrote that no Epstein victim ever said Trump was around Epstein when minors were present
Right, @grok?
@dondank69@lulu_tikehi8529@grok Like I said, that lying horse is already dead, no need for me to mash it into a pulp
Read the post I linked to… Jane Doe 4’s accusation against Trump is not remotely credible
@dondank69@lulu_tikehi8529@grok You’re still lying about Trump knowing about Maxwell recruiting Giuffre from MAL and about him never calling the cops, but that horse is dead
Regarding the file you linked to, this is a pretty thorough debunking:
We know the identity of the woman who told the FBI in 2019 that Trump tried to force her to give him a blowjob in 1983-1985 when she was 13-15 years old, and who filed a claim with the Epstein Victims' Compensation Program and joined a lawsuit against Epstein estate executors under the pseudonym "Jane Doe 4"... Her name is Leslie (formerly Edles) Lafine: https://t.co/2kvm8B1Yvn
1) There is ZERO independent corroboration for any part of the Trump allegation... Some personal and family background details were confirmed but literally nothing involving Trump (or Epstein):
- "Of the details that The Post and Courier found supported by public records, none related directly to the alleged victim's claims about Trump." - https://t.co/8LmM5lwDaz
- "Her allegations have not been verified, and the FBI never brought charges related to her claims, which at times appear outlandish." - https://t.co/vc3Q2U7Zwh
2) There is ZERO evidence Epstein rented or stayed in Hilton Head in 1983–85 or that Trump and Epstein even knew each other that early:
- "None of the records thus far have included details of the Hilton Head allegations or Epstein’s presence on the S.C. resort island in the 1980s." - https://t.co/VeE3EjYSkU
- "Mark Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein’s brother, told the Guardian he had no knowledge of his brother spending summers on Hilton Head in the early 1980s. 'I would have known,' he said in a phone call. There is no evidence Trump and Epstein knew each other in 1983." - https://t.co/vc3Q2U7Zwh
3) Her story (delivered ~35 YEARS after the fact) about the alleged Trump encounter changed significantly between accounts:
- She told the FBI that "Trump unzipped his pants and put [her] head 'down to his penis,'" that "[she] 'bit the shit out of it'" in response, and that "TRUMP struck [her] and said words to the effect of, 'get this little bitch the hell out of here.'" - https://t.co/RZ1NbsxJPv
- In the lawsuit she joined, she not only claimed that an anonymous "prominent [man] forcibly slapped [her] in the face after she was forced to perform oral sex on him" (obviously matching what she told the FBI about Trump), but that "[t]his same man forcibly raped her, penetrating her both vaginally and anally." - https://t.co/PPumEQ57WV
- She told the FBI that Epstein only took her off Hilton Head Island once, that she wasn't sure if the trip was to NY or NJ, and that she wasn't sure if they went by plane or car
- In the lawsuit, she claimed Epstein "flew [her] to New York, New York on approximately three or four occasions."
4) She has an extensive, documented criminal history:
- "She has faced several fraud and theft charges in Washington and, in 2023, a felony charge for the exploitation of an elderly person in Georgia." - https://t.co/vc3Q2U7Zwh
- "A woman who told the FBI she was victimized by Jeffrey Epstein while a young teen on Hilton Head Island in the mid-1980s has accumulated a record of criminal charges, drug dependency and domestic turmoil, an investigation by The Post and Courier reveals... In 2011, she was arrested on suspicion of submitting untruthful food stamp applications that said her daughter was living with her when the girl actually was with her former husband... She continued to rack up traffic violations in the Pacific Northwest, prompting further entanglements with the law that sometimes lasted years... In 2023, she was charged with stealing an envelope containing a few thousand dollars in cash from an elderly man with whom she had a relationship, according to her attorney. The dying man was saving for his funeral expenses... She sat in jail for nearly a year." - https://t.co/WNm935szmG
5) She told the FBI she ran into Epstein at a Rick James concert in Savannah when she was ~15, but James's only concerts there were in 1980-1982 (when she was 10-12), and the friend she claims went with her completely denies having gone to the concert:
- "The woman also claimed she bumped into Epstein at a Rick James concert in Savannah, Ga., in about 1985 while she was with a friend and her friend's mother... The friend could not recall the incident, saying: 'I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never been to a Rick James concert.'" - https://t.co/gVn74SRj1F
6) She was deemed ineligible for compensation from the EVCP, which had a low evidentiary bar to meet:
- "Jane Doe 4 who sued over Epstein's alleged abuse in Hilton Head was deemed ineligible by the program, according to court documents." - https://t.co/8YKwvppmdI
- The process of determining eligibility for compensation from the EVCP was "non-adversarial," i.e. claims would not be subject to any real scrutiny - https://t.co/88v6GA8Hw0
@dondank69@lulu_tikehi8529@grok You were wrong that Giuffre didn’t testify that she’d never seen Trump and Epstein together
You were also wrong that Trump “openly let Epstein recruit minors from MAL”… He literally said he didn’t know about it happening until later, and than Giuffre was “stolen”
@dondank69@lulu_tikehi8529@grok You’re not even going to admit you were embarrassingly wrong?
She literally said she never saw them together as far as she could remember (which is true of anyone’s denial about anything)
And who cares that Epstein said they were “good friends”?
@dondank69@lulu_tikehi8529@grok Moron, Giuffre literally testified that she never saw Trump and Epstein together
Ergo she could not have seen him with Epstein at the casino
@dondank69@grok@lulu_tikehi8529 Again, moron, there’s nothing in Sjoberg’s deposition about Epstein actually talking to Trump, about Trump knowing a minor was with them, or about them meeting with Trump at the casino
Right, @grok?