Pro tip: when arguing, try not to put words into your opponent's mouth that the opponent has never spoken. Try especially hard not to do this when you're arguing in a public forum where everyone can see exactly what has, and hasn't, been said.
You're angered that I use accurate language to describe the sexes, because the whole edifice of your ideology collapses if you acknowledge that sex is binary, that it is impossible to change sex, that sex has material, important consequences and that legal rights should be based on observable facts rather than unfalsifiable concepts.
You're working backwards from your preferred conclusion and you're prepared to advance nonsensical arguments to do it. Your attempts to change the meaning of the words 'man' and 'woman', to shift them into philosophical concepts, do not change material reality. I'm with Friedrich Engels: "These gentlemen think that when they have changed the names of things they have changed the things themselves. This is how these profound thinkers mock at the whole world."
@ScottyS396@LBCNewsScot It wasn’t a ‘try’ Scotty.
It was a test, which you failed. You’re free to believe whatever you like, even when it’s literally impossible. And the rest of us are free to point and laugh at you.
@Rlyeh0x A straight man sleeping with a trans woman is having homosexual sex, since both partners are male. You don’t need to override anything to come to that conclusion, even if that’s not how either of them rationalise it in their own minds. It still remains the case.
Those of you who are apparently so deeply offended by gay men and lesbians speaking out against gender ideology in defense of gay rights - during pride month - might want to ask yourself how long it would take you to speak out if it were you being called bigot for being hetero.
@Rlyeh0x …and this is the problem with identity politics. I don’t much care how people ‘identify’. I care about facts and reality. Words have meanings.
We’ve been taught to think that identity informs reality when that isn’t the case. The truth remains the truth no matter how it ‘feels’
@Rlyeh0x I don’t think it’s all that confusing, bisexuality exists and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it. That’s what’s being erased in that particular conversation, at least from our perspective. Anyone happy to sleep with people of either sex is bisexual.
@CraigLiddell7 Blair - resigned
Brown - voted out
Cameron - resigned
May - resigned
Johnson - resigned
Truss - resigned
Sunak - voted out
Starmer - resigned?
Something is very wrong with our political system when the only two voted out since ‘97 were gifted no10 to begin with.
@Christ_like_ish It’s exactly what I said.
Trans people telling lesbians and gay men that they’re bigoted if they don’t accept the redefinition of their sexuality to include members of the opposite sex is homophobia, Phil.
It’s not hard to understand if you try.
@Christ_like_ish Bigoted ideas about trans people = understanding that sex is real and it matters.
Lesbians don’t have penises Phil.
Thank you for proving my point.
@Christ_like_ish Oh, thanks Phil. It’s reassuring to know that it doesn’t happen because you said so. I’ll do my best to forget the several times I’ve heard it from TRAs this month alone, and let my lesbian friends know next time a cross dressing man calls them the same for saying no.
@DrJoGrady This is slightly disingenuous tbh.
There were no deaths in that age group whether vaccinated or not.
It’s obviously positive news, but in truth we won’t know whether the vaccine is working for another decade or so.
We have reached the late stage of civilisation in which a basic understanding of the sex difference between male and female is classed as right wing, bigoted and simply wrong. Truly the end of days.
@NormalGayPsych I think I get it… Trans men are real actual men, in the same way ‘gays’ who shag women aren’t bisexual. In other words ‘This thing I believe is true, is true because I said so’.
Topsy turvy town.