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[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW Which refugee camp in particular? Given Israel's actions, there are a lot of refugee camps. The odds are that their actions were genocidal, but there's no harm in being specific and looking into each instance independently to verify.

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

Protocol 3:
1) Don't use fire on a target surrounded by civs
2) Don't air drop fire on a target surrounded by civs
3) Make sure the target is as clear of civs as possible before using fire
4) Do not use fire on greenery, except when necessary
1/3

[Freerezervex @DalibanW]

@NoctusLynx I'm not sure why you are seriously contending with this. Protocol 3 clearly highlights that even if white phosphorous had the same effect as someone using it to target, but was instead using it as utility, it's not a war crime.

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW Consider that a few int'l courts, including the Int'l Court of Justice, have ruled that circumstantial evidence can show intent where a confession is absent. This includes the scale and nature of their tagrets and actions. South Africa included this proof in the brief.

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW So then intent can be implicit or inferred?

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW We'll see the evidence they bring forward, and if it meets your standards.

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW Something tells me that, even if the court runs its trial and finds Israel to be in violation of international law, you'll find a way to discount the court's verdict. Let them decide.

It's impossible to kill civies if we assert all the civies are militants instead. Life hack.

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW Again, the exact WP strike is the one on the night of Oct 16-17, '23, on the village of Dhayra near the Israeli-Lebanese border. I named this as the strike in question.
https://t.co/ekQoScZt1d

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW 2 (correction)
I re-read the conversation. I said "reagardless of intent or not," not "regardless if it's genocide or not." I made the statement due to how an act can be sufficiently harmful as for intent to be inferred. Intent doesn't need to be explicit.

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW Also, unsure if this is sufficient for your standards, but this is the brief South Africa filed against Israel, and is taking Israel to international court. The document is quite detailed and broad. For your purposes, you can start reading at page 30.
https://t.co/zK23ERMXkw

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW What I'm curious about is where your bar for showing intent is. That is, what would need to be shown for you to see intent? Does it need to be specifically military documents? Remember, Israel denies using illegal WP, but does not deny actually striking the village. Curious.

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW @ChadJinPing 3) Not caring about what the law should be is worrying. This thinking halts progress, preventing important legal developments by stifling the drive to change them, such as updates to laws to deal with egregious loopholes, or the Geneva Convention.

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW @ChadJinPing 2) Israel denies the usage of WP in Lebanon. Evidence exists that shows that Israel did use WP. Also, they have advanced guidance systems for the munitions, such as the Iron Dome. If the WP landed in the village, it's because Israel wanted it there.
https://t.co/DqrQ482UjX

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW @ChadJinPing 1) Right, talking about genocide, then bringing up war crimes unprovoked. We can talk about these two things in tandem, there's no need to make a hard distinction neither of us have observed throughout this conversation. Why bring up the difference now? https://t.co/YwQH1cFb99

[Freerezervex @DalibanW]

@ArchWizardCj @Ylete74725358 @brainrotpol The definition of genocide contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part. It does not include political groups or so-called “cultural genocide”.

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW But. I'll play your game. The US supplied WP Israel used against the village has US navigational systems. It will land where instructed, with little error. If it lands in a village, Israel told it to. None claim a malfunction with the rocket nor targetting. Why the village then?

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW "Mr. Bond, I know you hate me for killing all the Japanese with napalm and ending all anime and hentai, but you must understand that it was an accident. We meant to drop the napalm harmlessly into the ocean. Pinki promise. As such, you cannot be angry at me. Now die, Mr. Bond."

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@DalibanW @ChadJinPing 1) You invoked protocol 3 to suggest that the IDF's actions are not genocidal as they lack intent. Not us. https://t.co/vZhqLS0nRQ
2) If protocol 3 is too weak, ought it be reformed to be stronger, or keep the weak protections that make it "bad"?
https://t.co/Qz4hi57c88

[Freerezervex @DalibanW]

@NoctusLynx 1. If you wanted to use that as an affirmative defence, sure, you would just be wrong. That's not incidental
2. Again, what does incidental mean? The reason why protocol 3 is "bad" becuase it doesn't truly provide protection. You can do everything you wanted, as long as you don't

[NoctusLynx @NoctusLynx]

@ArchWizardCj Nineteen Eighty-Four's "Big Brother is Watching" +
No Exit's "Hell is Other People"
=
"Big Brother is Other People"