@IrregularDS Neither, that is a fictional character. You cannot be dignosed with a psycological condition over fiction, nor have your sexuallity assesed.
Nahh.. petite women gotta be some of the most oppressed people in the world because believe it or not, women can be short and petite without being a child
All this Stellar Blade 2 drama is retarded.
Koreans look younger. Many mature Korean women have small faces and petite bodies. Just because they don't look ugly or have gargantuan features doesn't make it pedobaiting. Western beauty standards (thanks to miserable feminists) have been so ruined to cater to the lowest common denominator that normal Asian aesthetics makes weirdos online convulse.
If you see an adult Asian woman and think she's a child, YOU are the creep. It's all projection.
@Johnny_the_Vet@TemplarsRoar@Asmongold Nigga are you a retard? WHAT 12-13 looks like that, find me a actual child that looks like her, oh wait you can’t because children don’t
100% an Asmon L. I am not a fan of loli, but it's fictional content and not real
You can kill people in GTA V, but does that make you a murderer? No because it's a video game and not reality. You sell drugs in Schedule 1, does that make you a drug dealer, no because it's a video game and not reality
We need to focus on the real pedos, not the people gooning to pixels
I said it once and I say it twice
Asmongold is just a normie
Who genuinely thinks that violent games cause real world violence
Lol so much for the "based streamer"
I'm going to end the entire asmongold vs. anime/internet debate on "lolis" Stellar Blade etc. by turning it around on antis/tourists/normies (this also destroys the "1000 yo" *gatcha moment* cope) we all agree 2B is goon safe right?
SHES ONLY 2-3 YEARS OLD YOU SICK F*CK.
I'm so sick of people acting like the age of the character "doesn't matter," when it comes to immortal lolita characters (of course it fucking matters) maturity is often not something you gain just by aging—experience wisdom and time will CHANGE/mature a person.
On the same token these people (apparently) would be 100% okay with banging an adult body who had a child's brain implanted in the body (to me that sounds horrifying) and yet people are supposed to feel "gotcha'd" when they say "oh you can't just say this dragon 'loli- character is 500 years old therefore its okay the age is not relevant." (age is not relevant?) (the body is what matters?) (wait a minute that doesn't make sense) Are you starting to get it?
Normies (+tourists/antis) constantly contradict themselves. (because they make emotional arguments not rational ones)
How many people have goon'd to characters like Starfire or Raven from the cartoon network show? Have you seen "Sladed" (ZONE ARCHIVE) for example? Anyone who is vehemently "anti-loli" and has gooned for that I have bad news: you are a PDF. (both characters are UNDERAGE) The show is called: TEEN TITANS. TEEN. They're teenagers.
*gasps* better bring out your woodchippers—wait, what do you mean it doesn't count and its "different" what makes it so different huh? Their own logic condemns so many of them themselves. (spare me the "well I didn't" cope that isn't the point)
Many of us were once children (skill issue) and grew up with lots of fictional characters (Misty (for me it was May), Toph, Gwen, etc. come to mind) which we may have come to like/crush on etc. I don't find it entirely strange if someone STILL likes a character—I do find the "we aged her up" cope pretty funny (99% of the time its entirely unrealistic to the character) with massive boobs or whatever, is that strange? Is not strange? Does it even matter?
I'm sick of this "debate" Fiction is Fiction I really don't care for the details most people are full of shite and/or hypocrites (often not realizing it) so the Steller Blade girl has as baby face and looks young (so do I and I'm in my 30s) she has a rocking bod so how can you say "woah this is loli coded" like bro, come on.
I hereby declare this debate over, none of you are free of sin! (except ReviewBrah aka TheReportOfTheWeek—he's the only one going to heaven legit never seen a more wholesome/pure soul, the rest of you: be ashamed)
My official statement/reply to asmon (Zach) would be:
"She just has as baby face (so do I) and there's nothing about her that even warrants bringing up the subject, and even if she was "loli coded" who TF cares—its not real. Don't use the same arguments that boomers used against violent video games or religious people used against DnD being 'satanic' because THAT IS EXACTLY HOW YOU SOUND. Some bad people might like things for bad reasons, sure, water is f*cking wet. It doesn't mean ANYTHING, and it does NOT necessarily correlate and even if it does: It doesn't correlate with anything that matters."
99.99% of gooners (in general) never commit crimes, even if they are gooning to "questionable" (or straight up unhinged) tags/subjects and that is true 99.99% of the time—why are we living our lives, entire CAREERS being destroyed vTubers being CANCELED, people advocating for UK Orwellian style laws where you're arrested over Skyrim mods (or anime merchandise) etc. all living under the tyranny of MORALFAGS who are basically just massive Karens who (are psychotic themselves) and either compensating for their own guilty conscious or just maniacs who want an excuse to MURDER PEOPLE and feel good/look good doing it.
Or they are NPCs, people who say shit like "I would have been against slavery" (would be the cruelest slave master that ever lived) or "I would have fought the Nazis" (literally debanks, doxxes, harasses threatens to murder, actually tries to murder (ice agents) and wants censorship/no free speech etc. and is woke)
To prove my point I will nuke people's brains (please keep in mind I'm not advocating for or against anything I'm proving a point): 18 being the age of consent in the United States is a complete myth. Turns out its 16 in majority (31/50) states, No: Romeo & Juliet 99% apply to those other 19 states for small age gaps, so 29-30ish/50 states you as an ADULT (doesn't matter how old you are) can legally date a 16 yo (its still illegal to record/pictures) although whether a person should do this is another subject entirely—I would advise courtship? IF you find yourself in that situation (RIP) and not do anything untoward even if it *is* legal because society won't see it that way, even tho that was the norm (even in America) not even 100ish? years ago? (again I'm not endorsing any of this but I know a lot of you will think "I'm not an NPC" bla bla bla. (Oh yeah if you're a teacher/doctor/step-parent etc. THAT IS STILL ILLEGAL, the rule is you cannot be in a direct position of power over them) (just a note to calm some people down, IRC girls actually do develop faster than men by 1-2 years on average for what its worth)
Most people are just products of their environment and don't have any real beliefs, they claim they do but then just repeat what they were taught growing up and all their moral opinions are literally just "the law" or whatever the culture is or whatever country they are from etc. In other words, most people are just "muh feelings" about everything.
This is the truth about the entire subject—and nothing will change it.
Can we stop being retarded now?
Yesterday, this was probably one of the strangest interactions I had with any content creator on the internet. Now I really like Asmongold, but this take has always been his consistent L. What started as a post critical of his take ended up with a "debate" on X, nitpicking details like sample sizes and whether the hentai was opposite-sex or that it was "real research" vs literature reviews.
He ends up ignoring or dismissing studies as not relevant or insufficient, doubling down on his gut instinct that attraction patterns to fictional child-like features must overlap with real world pedophilic ones.
Same emotional shortcut moral panickers have always used... "Violent games make kids violent." "Rap music causes gang crime"... same with D&D/satanic panic, comic books, heavy metal, etc., that was common between 1980 to the 2000's
He ignores all the data from the national crime statistics from Japan or the Czech Republic, how Otaku culture is emeshed with loli tropes... or that Japan is lolicon central, and yet has one of the lowest CSA rates.
The separation of fiction and reality is clearly segmented for healthy adults, and they compartmentalize it just fine. That's why video game violence or horror movie splatter fests don't ever translate into real-world violence.
The studies that do find correlations with offenders suffer from massive selection bias, where they test convicted pedophiles who already consume real-world illegal materials. These studies don't predict the behavior of the non-offending consumer base. Same line of reasoning as saying most school shooters played first-person shooter games, and then trying to generalize FPS games as problematic.
The reason why I talk about this so much, despite hardly interacting with lolicon content myself, is that the same "intuition" has greased the slippery slope of censorship, creating the regulatory mess we have today with video games and media as a whole. That WHOLE RED TAPE allowed the injection of woke, DEI, and other kinds of garbage, as the people regulating them tend to be the exact karenocracy being run by middle-aged foids that Asmongold is always critical of.
It's just totally disappointing as I expected him actually to look into the data, but instead defaulted into "gut level intuition mode" that so many moral satanic panicers fell into.
I'm at the point now where if you see an adult female character and scream "pedophilia," jumping through increasingly insane hoops to justify that viewpoint (i.e.: Asmongold), I just assume you're the actual pedophile. No one was thinking of children but you.