@innxcence_@nstab_ Yes, using spells and mechanics to reach a goal through repetition really seems different. The only difference is that they can fight the boss 3000 times, while we have to redo a random key that we've already timed 15x
@BubblepunkAD To me, that's also part of the beauty of raiding. Everyone tries to improve individually (that includes their gear) so that once we're in a group, we all progress. If everyone else has made the effort and you can't even do the bare minimum, you're just a burden