@MrPitbull07 I am 41 with a 3 year old. We used to have children before 20, our parents would be 40. We used to raise our children with very close proximity with the grandparents as our guides. All this shit you wrote is inaccurate, it is simply people trying to deal anti-child world
Spanking is sold as a way to teach respect and care.
What it actually teaches is that when someone bigger, stronger, and more powerful wants compliance badly enough, they can use force to get it.
Most fathers claim they want their children to become independent thinkers who stand up to bullies, abusers, manipulators, corrupt authority, and peer pressure.
But the method being modeled is: "Power gets its way."
It's always fascinating to watch adults try to raise courageous human beings by teaching them that powerful people get to hurt weaker people when they're frustrated and angry.
@Rothmus This was my workplace covid. They were all literally posting and rallying for my body my choice months before covid in Australia for no reason as it was an American contention. Then crickets when mandates came in. Really shaped my perception of people. They are pathetic
Some parents will say that if they hit their children hard enough, the tantrum will stop.
But what is really happening is that they are overwhelming the child with so much stress that the child essentially has a mental shutdown and goes into freeze or fawn mode.
They dissociate and stop moving, or they attempt to appease the person who is hurting them.
The tantrum has not been resolved. The child has simply entered a survival state.
@no2hater@thechosenberg The scenario is as close as I can come up with to draw a childless parallel. And I don't think you're being truthful in such case. More like pivoting because your position does not work when you swap out uninvited children for an uninvited wife, and you know it -but want to win
@no2hater@thechosenberg@grok given the context of the post. Is this an applicable scenario for people without children to grasp.
What would you do if your brother said you can't bring your wife (who you love more than anything and live for) to his wedding?
@NoNonsenseND@EvilStefano@grok give an analogy to the 'Trojan horse' mechanism of action regarding the studies showing in mice that the immune system can theoretically carry vaccine adjuvants passed the blood brain barrier
Children are not born talking back.
They are not born deceptive.
They are not born disrespectful.
They are not born manipulative.
They are not born hostile.
Children learn how relationships work by living inside them.
They learn honesty from honesty.
Respect from respect.
Trust from trust.
Aggression from aggression.
If your child constantly lies to you, ask what truth costs them.
If your child is disrespectful, ask what respect feels like in your home.
If your child is angry, ask what anger they are surrounded by.
If your child is an annoying little piece of shit, look in the mirror.
Children are mirrors.
And people don't like what they see reflected back at them.
The claim that "spanking isn't hitting" is one of the weirdest examples of doublethink you'll ever see.
It's like saying:
"Waterboarding isn't torture."
"Taxation isn't theft."
"Punching isn't violence."
"Bribery isn't corruption."
"Yelling isn't aggression."
"Lying isn't deception."
"Cheating isn't dishonesty."
"Bullying isn't harassment."
The action didn't change.
You just swapped the label because the truth sounds bad out loud.
You're making physical contact with someone else's body to cause pain and change their behavior.
The only reason people call it "spanking" is because "hitting children" sounds exactly like what it is.
What would you do if your brother said you can't bring your wife (who you love more than anything and live for) to his wedding?
Its someones right to decide who is at their wedding. And it is fine to decline if the arrangement is an insult to you.
If my brother wanted to make my children second class citizens and got butt hurt that I declined, he can go fuck himself, they are my number 1 priority not him, not even for a day.
@1iqinsaniar The child is dysregulated. If the mother had a clue this was an opportunity to not force an outcome. Sit with, sooth and help calm. Help him (lend nervous system) and bring him down to baseline, then try again.
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