arent. arent most artists working closely and intimately with their manufacturers? dont most artists actually strive to produce as ethically as possible? why are we acting like the vast majority of small artists are producing stuff on the level of corpos
@umberghauri@coolartcorner Yes, I can agree that law does not mean it’s always followed, hell there’s crimes happening right now, and I also agree with paying fair wages. I consider these people to be as much of an artist as I am, and I personally believe they should be paid as such
@umberghauri@coolartcorner Then I’ll clarify, of course exploitation is an issue, anywhere across the globe. I do not buy into Shein or similar businesses because I am more than aware of their factory practices. This is why i chose the manu I work with, because I am well aware of their factory practices
@umberghauri@coolartcorner You state I’m not good at reading comprehension when I just said shein is not a fair comparison to the manufacturers artists work with but ok 😭 I was trying to offer my experience and opinion on the matter to back up what OP had said, you don’t have to agree and I respect that
@umberghauri@coolartcorner I can only speak on my experience here, but yes, the manufacturer that I work with is. And I’ll also agree with you on not buying into a product that’s source isn’t stated
@umberghauri@coolartcorner While it’s not a guarantee everyone will do their research before working with one, Alibaba at the very least makes it easier to find/source ethical manufacturing
@umberghauri@coolartcorner but Alibaba is globally the largest website for connecting businesses to manufacturers, and where a lot, if not all, artists go to find manufacturers. Alibaba gives an extensive overview of the manus, as well as their certifications, hours, etc.
@umberghauri@coolartcorner I personally work with a manufacturer because they have access to resources and materials I do not. This is the case for a majority of artist that utilize manufacturing. Also, manufacturing done locally does not equal manufacturing done ethically.
@umberghauri@coolartcorner They *are* making a living wage. A lot of the misconceptions you’re following (I.e not making a living wage) are based in Sinophobia and the image western media has pushed of Chinese factories.
It’s very upsetting as someone who is Chinese to see VERY blatant and obvious Sinophobia going on in the Small Business Manufacturing Discourse… PLEASE be mindful when you engage with it, some of us are affected more than others… 😞
🧵 Ok yall, if you think that everyone should go back to handmade merch in dens and AAs you are fundamentally misunderstanding this specific creative economy, how it works, how people choose to spend their money, how much time and ability artists have
If you actually did anything in this space you'd know that we comply with China's extensive worker rights all the time. If you ever try to talk to a rep past 5pm CN or order anywhere close to their mandatory 2 week holiday for Chinese New Year, you've felt their labor laws.
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