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[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

Being illiterate doesn’t prove someone is a prophet. It only means he wasn’t formally trained. The real question is whether his message is consistent with God’s previous revelation.

The Qur’an also contains claims that differ from the earliest historical and biblical sources for example, denying the crucifixion of Jesus (Quran 4:157), despite it being one of the best-attested events of the first century by Christian and non-Christian sources. If a later revelation contradicts earlier revelation and history, simply saying “it corrects the errors” isn’t evidence it assumes what it needs to prove.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

@sneako Jesus is God

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

Acts 21 actually disproves your claim, not mine. James says the reports are false because Paul wasn’t telling Jewish believers to abandon Moses. That’s exactly what Paul says elsewhere: Jewish Christians were free to keep their customs, but the Law was not required for salvation (1 Cor. 9:20; Gal. 5:2–6).

The very next verse (Acts 21:25) reaffirms the Jerusalem Council’s decision that Gentiles are not under the Mosaic Law. If James believed Paul was preaching a different gospel, why does he immediately reaffirm the Council’s decree instead of correcting Paul?

Acts 15, Acts 21, Galatians 2, and 1 Corinthians 9 all fit together: one gospel, different pastoral practice for Jews and Gentiles. There’s no evidence James ever accused Paul of preaching a false gospel.

You can do better then this come on 😂

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

James didn’t need to tell the congregation to “do what Paul says” because he already publicly agreed with Paul’s gospel at the Jerusalem Council. In Acts 15, James concludes that Gentiles should not be required to keep the Mosaic Law to be saved (Acts 15:19–21), exactly in line with Paul’s teaching. The council then sends a letter to all the churches confirming that decision.

As for Acts 21, you’re taking it out of context. The issue wasn’t Paul’s gospel it was the false rumor that Paul was telling Jewish believers to abandon Moses completely. James asks Paul to participate in a purification rite to show those rumors were false. That was about avoiding unnecessary offense, not changing the gospel.

Paul himself explains this principle: “To the Jews I became as a Jew… though I myself am not under the Law” (1 Corinthians 9:20). He could voluntarily observe Jewish customs without believing they were required for salvation.

If James thought Paul was secretly preaching a false gospel, why did he:

publicly endorse the Jerusalem Council’s decision (Acts 15),
call Paul and Barnabas to report their ministry (Acts 21:19),
and never accuse Paul of heresy?

The evidence points to one gospel preached by both James and Paul not two competing messages.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

Acts 21 actually proves the opposite of what you’re claiming. James isn’t saying Paul is a false teacher he says “they have been informed” (they’ve heard rumors). That’s why James immediately tells Paul to publicly demonstrate he isn’t teaching Jews to abandon Moses (Acts 21:23–26), and Paul agrees. If James believed Paul was preaching a different gospel, he wouldn’t have embraced him, called him “brother,” or sent him on his mission (Acts 15; Galatians 2:9).

You’re also confusing the mystery of Gentile inclusion (Ephesians 3:3–6) with Jewish customs. The apostles all agreed that Gentiles were saved through Christ, not the Law (Acts 15:7–11). Peter even says Paul’s letters contain wisdom given to him by God and classifies them alongside “the other Scriptures” (2 Peter 3:15–16). That’s hardly what you’d say about a liar leading people to hell.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

You crossed out the very part that disproves your argument. Ephesians 3:5 says the mystery “has now been revealed to His holy apostles and prophets” plural, not Paul alone. Paul received the revelation, but so did the other apostles. That’s exactly why Peter, James, and John examined and affirmed his gospel (Galatians 2:1–9). Your interpretation ignores the plain reading of the text. Try again 🤷‍♂️

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

That’s not what those passages say.

2 Corinthians 5:16 doesn’t mean Jesus’ earthly teachings are obsolete. Paul is saying we no longer know Christ merely by worldly standards because He is now the risen Lord.

Romans 16:25–26 calls it “my gospel” because Paul was entrusted with preaching it not because he invented a different gospel.

Ephesians 3:3–5 explicitly says the mystery “has now been revealed to His holy apostles and prophets” plural. Paul isn’t claiming exclusive revelation. He’s saying God revealed the mystery to the apostles, including him.

Most importantly, Paul submitted his gospel to Peter, James, and John, and they affirmed that he preached the same message (Galatians 2:1–9). If Paul had replaced Jesus’ teaching, the apostles who lived with Jesus would have condemned him, not given him the right hand of fellowship.

You’re quoting isolated verses while ignoring the context. Try again 🤷‍♂️

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

Paul didn’t curse every gospel except “his own.” He condemned any message that contradicted the gospel revealed by Christ. The proof he wasn’t making up a new religion is that Peter, James, and John examined his teaching and publicly affirmed it (Galatians 2:1–9). If Paul’s gospel was different, the apostles would’ve condemned him not endorsed him. You do so well at debunking religious 😂

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

Paul wasn’t asking people to believe him without evidence. He pointed to the risen Christ, the other apostles, and the Scriptures. His conversion wasn’t a private religion he invented it was examined by Peter and James (Galatians 1:18–19), confirmed by the apostles (Galatians 2:7–9), and the gospel he preached was already being proclaimed before he converted (1 Corinthians 15:3–8). Even Paul said, “If we or an angel from heaven preach another gospel, let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:8). That’s an invitation to test his message, not blindly trust him.

Paul did claim to have seen the risen Jesus (Acts 9; 1 Corinthians 9:1; 15:8).
But Christianity doesn’t rest on Paul’s testimony alone. It rests on the testimony of the Twelve, the empty tomb, the women witnesses, James, more than 500 witnesses (1 Corinthians 15:6), and the apostolic Church.
If Paul had been preaching something different, Peter, John, and James had every reason to reject him. Instead, they accepted his ministry and remained in fellowship with him (Galatians 2:9).

So the meme creates a false dilemma by pretending Christianity depends solely on Paul, when the New Testament presents Paul as one witness among many, accountable to the apostles who knew Jesus during His earthly ministry.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

Paul didn’t invent Christianity he was converted only a few years after the resurrection and received the gospel already being preached (1 Corinthians 15:3–8). He then met Peter and James (Galatians 1:18–19), and later the other apostles affirmed his ministry (Galatians 2:7–9). If Paul was teaching a different gospel, why did the apostles give him the right hand of fellowship instead of condemning him?

Paul constantly points people to Christ, not himself. He tells believers to imitate him as he imitates Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1), urges them to test everything (1 Thessalonians 5:21), and even says if he or an angel preaches another gospel, let him be accursed (Galatians 1:8). That’s the opposite of blind obedience.

Peter also recognized Paul’s writings as Scripture (2 Peter 3:15–16). The New Testament presents Paul and the apostles as preaching the same gospel, not competing messages.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

Grok is describing what Islam and modern Judaism believe, not refuting Christianity. Christians have always believed Jesus is fully God and fully man (John 1:1, 14; Philippians 2:6–8). The Incarnation means the eternal Son took on a real human nature so He could hunger, thirst, grow tired, suffer, and die according to His humanity, without ceasing to be God.

Jesus never taught a contradiction between monotheism and His divinity. He affirmed there is one God (Mark 12:29) while also claiming what belongs to God alone: He called Himself the “I AM” (John 8:58), accepted worship (Matthew 14:33; John 9:38), forgave sins (Mark 2:5–12), claimed authority to judge all humanity (John 5:22–23), and declared, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30). His Jewish audience understood these as divine claims that’s why they accused Him of blasphemy (John 5:18; John 10:33).

As for the Trinity, Christians do not claim Jesus gave a philosophical lecture on the doctrine. The doctrine is the Church’s summary of everything Scripture reveals: one God, the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God, yet they are distinct Persons. The word Trinity came later, but the biblical teaching did not.

And when Jesus cried, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” (Matthew 27:46), He was quoting Psalm 22 a messianic psalm that begins with suffering and ends in vindication. It was not a denial of His divinity.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

That’s not how language works. Jesus didn’t need to say the exact English words “I am God, worship Me” for His claim to be unmistakable. He spoke as a first-century Jew, and His audience understood exactly what He was claiming which is why they repeatedly accused Him of blasphemy and tried to stone Him.

Jesus said:

“Before Abraham was, I AM.” (John 8:58) invoking God’s divine name from Exodus 3:14. The Jews immediately picked up stones.
“I and the Father are one.” (John 10:30). Again, they tried to stone Him because, as they said, “You, being a man, make Yourself God.” (John 10:33)
“Whoever has seen Me has seen the Father.” (John 14:9)
“All should honor the Son just as they honor the Father.” (John 5:23) No prophet ever said that.

He also forgave sins (Mark 2:5–12), accepted worship (Matthew 14:33; John 9:38), claimed authority to judge the whole world (John 5:22–27), and Thomas worshipped Him saying, “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28) and Jesus corrected him nowhere.

If Jesus never claimed divinity, why did the Jewish leaders repeatedly charge Him with blasphemy and seek to execute Him for making Himself equal with God?

That directly answers his challenge while grounding the response in Scripture and the historical context of Jesus’ audience.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

John 5:30 doesn’t deny Christ’s divinity. Christians believe Jesus has two natures fully God and fully man. As the Son incarnate, He perfectly obeys the Father, which is why He says He seeks the Father’s will. Read the whole passage, not one verse: in John 5:19-23 Jesus says whatever the Father does, the Son does likewise, that He gives life to whom He wills, and that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. No mere prophet ever claimed that. If Jesus were only a messenger, why did He accept worship, forgive sins, claim authority to judge the world, and rise from the dead?

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

This is a false comparison. Jesus never claimed His mission was to split the moon or establish a political empire He said, “My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36). The real question is why Jesus alone is called the Messiah, the Word of God, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, forgave sins, accepted worship, rose from the dead, and ascended to heaven. Those are the claims that need to be addressed. Also, the miracles you’ve listed for Muhammad come from Islamic tradition, but where is the independent historical evidence that he split the moon, spoke to jinn, or melted iron with his hands? If we’re discussing history rather than simply accepting each religion’s own scriptures, those claims require evidence too.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

My hope is in Jesus, not Paul. But Jesus appointed Paul as an apostle (Acts 9), and Peter affirmed Paul’s writings as Scripture (2 Peter 3:15–16). Paul and James address different issues they don’t contradict each other. Paul rejects earning salvation by the Law; James rejects a dead faith with no obedience.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

This argument only works if you ignore the context. Paul never said, “Believe me because I said so.” He pointed people to the risen Christ, appealed to eyewitnesses, welcomed testing (1 Thess. 5:21), and his teaching was accepted by the original apostles. Quoting isolated verses doesn’t overturn the context.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

@wondertruht @LoveSpeech247 This is what happens when you rip verses out of context. Paul wasn’t playing the victim he was defending his apostleship against false teachers and showing the cost of following Christ. Read 2 Corinthians 11 instead of making memes.

[Brayden ☦️ @Ohbs1010]

@Omar73265632 @sneako Rome fell. Christ still reigns.