@matthewmillerai They had it going so well with Gemini 2.5 serious all the way to the 3.1 serious.
They kinda got lazy for some reason. Really weird as it feels like they deliberately chose to be bad.
Gemini 4 argon’s rating on LLM arena.
Need I say less? They either took too long to release, or this model is sub par.
I really hope argon is the equivalent of the new flash or something, otherwise it’s not good enough.
@IndependentEco I think that fable 5.5 pretty much guaranteed beats astra 6.1 on pure intelligence.
But Argon is the true wild card, we don't know what to expect. Could be really good, even above fable. or mediocre
If you look at the context of what Tibo is saying. He's not only referring to 6.1 Astra, but to 6.1 Astra being cheaper!
This is because Tibo replied 6.1 coming soon to a post complaining about 6 astra usage.
Perhaps Open AI are still in the race.
@ziwenxu_ The OpenAI marketing hits different . Though they have to put their actions where their mou to speaks to make up for dev day.
The release has to be amazing for me to keep my subscription
Tibo is probably talking about 6.1 Astra.
This probably will be a great model.
This doesn’t matter if the usage is terrible tho. We are beginning to see a dynamic where expensive models are becoming inaccessible to average people.
Open AI started this trend with usage cut
@Da7_Tech Grok threw away every advantage they had with 4.7.
4.6 was cheap, fast, and somewhat comparable to the frontier which gave it purpose.
Though now we not only have models which do what 4.6 did but better. We have had no reasonable improvement from grok.
4.7 is garbage