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Adolf Hitler was E1b1b

[Oncarnam @OnceAnOnca]

@RobotTraderLLC @fuknanon @Cotac_Rastic @buckthebigguy77 @Verai3ty "women have always been this way" So your dear mother and grandmother too ? How can you speak like this of all females just to justify your relationshit

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@Abdelmajid2024 @grok if someone claims an arab nasab but his paternal line is Amazigh, its a strong reason to question the claim.
But its true that there was assimilation into arab tribes without any pairing, so im mostly wrong.

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@Abdelmajid2024 @grok You're mostly right but my point is that on an narrower scale, nasab is the patrilineal line, and the Y haplogroups follow that line. I agree its not determinant but its a reliable indicator.
What you asked Grok was at a broad level, at subclade level it can serve other purposes

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@Abdelmajid2024 Anyway, its true that some tribes adopted arab nasab through wala', so i have no clue who knows. Nasab has been falsified for centuries in the maghreb for political reasons

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@Abdelmajid2024 Im not saying that if your MyHeritage says E-M81 you're going to Hell. But when your paternal line is clearly Amazigh and you insist you have an arab nasab bc muh panarabism, you're claiming something that isn't yours. Culture and language isn't enough.

[Oncarnam @OnceAnOnca]

@Abdelmajid2024 Anyway i agree with you that an haplogroup isn't an ethnicity, but saying that the patrilinear line isn't a core part of self determination and ingroup belonging is false.

[Oncarnam @OnceAnOnca]

@nirgalyeska_VXX @Abdelmajid2024 Correct, its too ancient to be considered solely arab.

[Oncarnam @OnceAnOnca]

@ustishi I remember his frequent poasts about "12 year olds" adults. he had to go

[Oncarnam @OnceAnOnca]

@Abdelmajid2024 A lie remains a lie. "Described himself with that tribe" would be find if he really actually belonged to this arab tribe. A lot of people in maghreb lied about arab lineage for political advantages.

Larping isn't halal.

[Oncarnam @OnceAnOnca]

@Abdelmajid2024 If someone assimilated into arabs that means they have arab male ancestors, thus not berber haplogroup (E-M81).

Saying no matter your tribe, dna, haplogroup, nasab, that you are from a certain ethnicity isn't okay. Larping isn't culture nor ethnicity.

[Oncarnam @OnceAnOnca]

@Abdelmajid2024 Haplogroup Y helps finding the nasab of somebody because nasab = patrilinear lineage, no matter your race or DNA.
You can be 90% english but have an arab nasab, thus allowing you to call yourself arab. A lot of maghrebis don't but do anyway, and it is haram.

[Oncarnam @OnceAnOnca]

@Abdelmajid2024 I see a lot of maghrebis (old and young) saying they're arabs when their nasab, haplogroup and whole DNA isn't. They don't even care about which tribe they belong to.

Pan-arabism is stupid, pathetic and dangerous.

[Oncarnam @OnceAnOnca]

@Abdelmajid2024 Haplogroup is like nasab, its the patrilinear lineage.
Saying you're arab when your father (and thus forefathers) weren't is haram according to this hadith because you're lying about who your father is.

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@ustishi Is Ken in the gc?

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@aiznag1 @berber2luxe Les juifs sont les plus gros traitres de la planete et de l'histoire de l'humanité. Il n'y a pas d'opposition arabe contre juif, le premier est bien souvent aujourd'hui aux ordres du second.

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@aiznag1 @berber2luxe Les arabes n'ont pas réduit les maghrebins en esclavage, ni "attaqué" aucun pays maghrebin puisqu'il n'en existait pas, il y avait seulement des tribus.
Ta vision des omeyyades est à chier, ce n'était pas arabe qui tue berbere, c'est bien plus compliqué que ca.