@LtGenDPPandey Im certain areas navy has a will power and that's the reason you are seeing non stop construction with incremental improvements. P15, P15B now P15C, P17A, now P17B then P18, S2, S4,S4* now S5, SSN. As they backed local systems, fleet expanding. IAF kept waiting for perfection
Started noticing such things late 90s and not much has changed since then.
1. Picking and choosing words to suit own agenda.
2. Running down indigenous efforts while paying token lip service to sound neutral. Absolutely ZERO scrutiny on imports and their shortcomings ever.
3. In this case, being factually wrong by itself as well as comparison with the two primary adversaries.
4. Conflict of interest wrt Adani owning NDTV as well as very very likely being a part of Rafale screwdrivergiri program among others.
@ParthVa53135321 Perhaps they would have if it was there for sale. Thats the reason we haven't been able to build our own SSK and P75I is going on and on and on
@ShivAroor@zone5aviation@VishnuNDTV Ultimate satisfaction of this group will be -
1. Buy Rafale F4 ut wont ve obsolete in 2030s and pay 10s of billions for F5 upgrades and relevant weapon purchases. Dump Tejas mk2
2. Fund FCAS and dump AMCA
Stay at mercy of foreigners for air power if war breaks out
@VinodDX9 Here I will disagree. Tejas mk2 prototype is almost ready whereas tedbf or ORCA is nowhere. Even if they decide today, CCS clearance will take years. Before that you have to complete CDR. I don't see its prototype rolling out even in 2032. That program was totally ignored
Just over a month ago, Vikram-1 reached orbit on its very first flight. 🚀
Today, on #NationalSpaceDay, Stage 1 for our second Vikram-1 is already on its way to the spaceport at Sriharikota — beginning our next journey to orbit.
From one flight to the next.
Onwards & Upwards. 🇮🇳🚀
@zone5aviation ~49:00 Re all the bloodletting- there’s plenty of blame to go around. No need to keep score. Instead, the discourse needs to focus on “so what next?” ~51:00 We can clearly see the “squeeze” being applied via 404. So why unable to see the threat of the whole a/c becoming hostage!
@KSingh_1469 I really dont understand why they are shouting HAL hasn't delivered a single mk1a. Morons totally ignore this fact in their statements that production isnt hampered, once issues get resolved, aircrafts will be delivered in bulk
@VishnuNDTV Bro then let's bring our focus on AMCA and then Su57 (even less stealthy) as a stop gap. Why spending 40 billions on obsolete 4.5 gen? Let's pour money to get 100s of stealth. Its a ratio and we are not US, initially that ratio can be 40% 5th gen. Tejas get u numbers & capability
In my personal opinion, the criticism of the Tejas Mk2 is largely pointless. If you were comparing it with the F-35 or another fifth-generation fighter, the discussion would be different.
What exactly is Rafale F4 going to bring that is so revolutionary? In my view, the era of Rafale is already coming to an end. The role Rafale is currently performing can also be performed by the Tejas Mk2 to a significant extent.
This whole “stop-gap” argument can easily become a cycle: first, we buy Rafales as a stop-gap, then we say the infrastructure is already in place, so we should order more. That is how strategic autonomy gets compromised.
You have to practically beg foreign OEMs to integrate our weapons, radars, and systems onto Rafale. If our own radars and defence ecosystem are becoming mature, then why keep spending heavily on foreign platforms? And if we are not willing to spend money on indigenous systems and platforms, how exactly is the domestic ecosystem supposed to develop?
With proper dedication, focused investment, and institutional commitment, the Tejas Mk2 could potentially be brought into production around the same timeframe as the additional Rafale deliveries. The real question is whether we are willing to put in that level of effort.
The IAF also needs to be willing to struggle and put in the hard work required to build an indigenous ecosystem. Nobody is going to hand us technological capability on a silver platter. Strategic autonomy requires long-term investment, patience, and the willingness to develop and refine our own systems even if the initial results are not perfect.