@JennyWakefiel12@Trent_Horn Exactly good thing I’m Catholic and I was baptized as He commanded, I participate in the Eucharist every Sunday as He commanded, I go to confession as He commanded.
The same cannot be said for Protestants.
@joshwhitlatch Let me give you a little hint, if Protestant influencers need to create a full on Me Too movement with faux outrage to save their guy, that guy lost the debate.
@KellyPowersBPA@Trent_Horn If you’re more outraged that this illustration was used in a debate format, than you are at the Christian that could not condemn it, there might be something wrong with your theology.
The outrage is doing exactly what Trent intended. Every time you complain you prove his point.
@KhorPoints@TimmyT_12_17@needGod_net@joshwhitlatch I’ve been to hundreds of mass’s, never heard a priest talk about tithing. I’ve also been hundreds of Protestant services. They almost always talk about tithing. That G wagon ain’t going to pay for itself!
@BiblicGrounded Not only did Ryan not condemn this act, he couldn’t even claim it was wrong. If you agree with Ryan, why the outrage?
If anything, Christians should be outraged at Ryan for teaching a false gospel of debauchery.
@needGod_net Wait, your claim is that it is so morally reprehensible to talk about that, yet you couldn’t even say it was wrong?
All your outrage proves is that your theology is deeply flawed.
@needGod_net@thrownofff You seem to be trust in your own performance of this debate more than you trust Jesus. How can you claim to trust Jesus when you refuse to do as He instructed?
@needGod_net It’s America’s 250th birthday. We could go relive American history 6 times over and Ryan still wouldn’t be able to name a single Christian who shares his views. If that’s not relevant to the debate, then what is?
@rock_breakin@joshwhitlatch The point is, there is no perfect church. If the argument is to leave and start your own, you will have infinite fractures. And that’s exactly what we’ve seen in Protestantism.
@rock_breakin@joshwhitlatch Its not ad hominem to say this. If your argument is that, if a church has corruption”, start your own. And the church you started also has corruption. What’s the point?
Unless you’d like to argue that your church doesn’t have corruption. Just tell me which one. I’ll convert.
@rock_breakin@joshwhitlatch What did the papacy do to you, that you feel justified in throwing away 2000 years of Christian tradition? I genuinely want to know. Is your claim that your church is free from guilt and corruption, because if you name the denomination, I got some news for you.
@rock_breakin@joshwhitlatch And if you refuse to receive the sacraments, I’d stop pointing at the sins of others and instead ask yourself why you refuse to do the things Jesus and Paul instructed - why you refuse to practice the Christian traditions that have been going on for 2000 years.
@rock_breakin@joshwhitlatch The Bible tells Christians to endure persecution and calls the church to unity. The Israelites failed time and time again, but they didn’t leave and start their own Judaism. Reform movements within the church have succeeded, making the “start your own church” thing unnecessary.
@rock_breakin@joshwhitlatch The infallibility of scripture means nothing if we can read the same book, and one church tells me I’m going to heaven and the other tells me I’m going to hell.
It has to do with the reformation because you didn’t need to start a new church to root out sinful people.