You must have forgotten I was invited into the AOM Element group and could follow the thread (as well as note how many people were in it in total).
Even the private conversations amongst you all are this way.
It’s all LARP.
That’s not to say I don’t agree with issues brought up by TO but the solution you all have chosen is the wrong one 🤷🏼♂️. You simply have no “power” as Boniface puts it to even hold hierarchs accountable because the TO branches have broken off every which way and can’t even hold a Pan-Orthodox Council amongst yourselves…
@Deth2Compromise I mean… there isn’t a reason to 🤷🏼♂️.
There are many bishops you could be under who are NOT guilty of ecumenism that wouldn’t require you to abandon the entire Body for your own sect
What the algorithms are revealing is that people are looking for the rebuttals against TO, not the other way around…
They don’t understand how the algorithm works lol
Wes and Gavin have avoided addressing Holy Orthodoxy on the merits and have consistently relied on the heavily subjective “you’ll know them by their fruits” argument.
Well, by God’s providence, Wes and Gavin finally been refuted on those grounds, too.
First, @gavinortlund argued there’s no evidence of appeals to the hagioi in heaven by the church prior to 200AD. When I showed him numerous biblical passages and primary sources like 1 Enoch, Testament of Levi, and the songs of sabbath sacrifice, Gavin resorted to fraudulently representing 1 Enoch 106 and handwaiving psalm 103, as well as other primary sources.
Gavin severely and fraudulently misrepresented the scholarship of Meir bar Ilan, Hurtado, and Stuckenbruck. Gavin preached against “triumphalism” and in the same video Gavin accused @StephenBoyce333 of saying “numerous times” that he “demolished Gavin’s arguments,” which is a lie—Dr Boyce never said that.
Gavin won’t address that his pastor emeritus (who is also literally his dad) endorsed Kamala Harris. Gavin won’t address his confessed admiration for Obama, plugging Obama’s book on his YouTube channel, or the fact that his church knowingly hired a gay pastor and fired him only in the midst of scandal. Gavin rejects a worldwide Noahic flood and teaches a form of God-assisted evolution. Gavin is a liberal.
@daveedsims has shown Gavin engaging in numerous instances of contextomy and misrepresentation in the literature on the history and theology of icons. @Michael__Garten, too, has demonstrated Gavin engaging in contextomy and misrepresentation.
It’s a pattern of behavior over a long period of time. The list is seemingly endless.
Now, we know of numerous instances (of varying severity) where @WesleyLHuff decided to engage plagiarism.
It was NOT just one time 10 years ago. It was throughout his graduate coursework and his public-facing apologetics work. There are instances from 10 months ago and 2 years ago that Wes hasn’t responded to. It appears to be a pattern of behavior for Wes over the last 10 years to frequently engage in taking other people’s work and claiming it as his own.
Wes’s recent “apology” video ignores all of the most recent instances, attempting to frame the issue as merely a single occurrence from 10 years ago. That’s a load of nonsense.
The state of apologetics for this American folk religion is in shambles.
They have lost on every level.
All they have left is cope.
Fr. Josiah Trenham leads prayers outside Planned Parenthood
https://t.co/n6WfqY3bBe
Faithful from St. Andrew’s Antiochian Orthodox Church in Riverside, California, gathered outside their local Planned Parenthood last weekend to offer prayers honoring the sanctity of all life.