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Just released our last Portal video covering the UNT 3, Mestemaker, Hawkins & Young. We also put a bow on the portal class with overall thoughts on the class.

Would love for you to check it out! #gopokes #okstate

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@Keleven80 @OSUbaseballgirl They'll get it figured out

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Okay, so, I just got a message from a VERY trusted source who provided some numbers here.

Here is what I was told. Now understood, there's a lot of semantics that can be used here, so here are the parameters that I gave the people I've talked to, which are my sources.

The definition of "fully-funded" that I'm using means scholarships given by the school, plus rev share/NIL in totality. So, if the school gives 13 scholarships, which OSU had last year, and a scholarship is worth $60,000, which is what baseball has to pay to fund a scholarship, then, to be "fully-funded," OSU would need roughly $1.2 Million in rev share/NIL to be fully funded.

So, OSU had 13 scholarships and $400,000 in cash, which meant they were close to 3/4 million dollars away from just being fully-funded in terms of scholarships. And, that would be handing out NO NIL to anyone, just a scholarship. This is why the 34 rule has made it SO tough!

So, for next year, these are the numbers I've been given by these sources.

Source 1:
UCF: 34 FULL scholarships, plus it is believed they have a lot of rev share on TOP of that.

Arizona: 24 Scholarships with 150K in rev share/NIL

Utah & BYU: Similar to each other. 15 scholarships and enough rev share to total 18 scholarships. That's right, exactly where OSU is at.

Cincinnati: "Rumored" ALL 34 scholarships

Source 2:
West Virginia: This year, 11.7 plus 1.25 million in rev share/NIL, which is a total of right at $2,000,000. Next year, expanding to 20-25 scholarships with same rev share.

KU: 25 fulls & 500K in Rev Share/NIL

TCU: They "think" 25 fulls & $750,000

Texas Tech: ALL 34 scholarships and MASSIVE rev share.

Source 1 didn't mention OSU, but by the figures they gave as to what all the Big 12 schools are doing, their figures indicated that OSU would be close to, if not at the BOTTOM of the Big 12 in terms of resources allocated.

If you are someone who knows these figures and you think they're wrong, or you would like to add your team's finances to these equations, DM me, and we'll do it however you want it done. Beyond that, there ya' go! #gopokes #okstate

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@Keleven80 @OSUbaseballgirl These figures very clearly show you what OSU fans "should" expect.

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Yes, Cinderella stories will always happen, and I hope they continue to. Especially if their are auto bids. But, I'd bet you'd find, when you compare expenses to operating budgets, Troy is pretty on par with OSU baseball. One thing that fans don't take into account is just how expensive this league is. It greatly cuts down on what you can do for your players.

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@Keleven80 @OSUbaseballgirl That shows that it "can" happen, not that it "should". You hold coaches accountable for what "should" happen, not what "can".

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Jac Caglianone. He got pulled straight from AA to KC. As per McLean, he isn't a position player anymore, so that's not a relative comparison. We did pitch him some, but he was a position player who was throwing. He's a 6-pitch pitcher now. And, it was his choice to be a position player, so that has nothing to do with the coaches. In fact, he came here and tried out to be a QB. Josh said as much in one of our interviews. Otherwise, there is no way he ends up at OSU.

Beyond that, basically every arm we saw, and over half their position players for both teams became pros, and at the affiliated levels between Florida & Arkansas. Those 2 teams were very loaded with talent.

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So....I've sat on this information out of respect for the program because I didn't want anyone to have the impression this was being used as an excuse or be seen as whining

To add, West Virginia will have 20-25 next year and roughly 2 1/2 times the total monies. KU will be at 25. This part is speculation, but Ibe also heard that TCU will have 25 scholarships and that BYU is either fully funded or close.

AND...We know Tech has the funds to do whatever they want.

There ya' go! If you can't acknowledge this is THE problem then you're just not in reality. #gopokes #okstate

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In the Big 12, Arizona State had 34 scholarship baseball players this season. Oklahoma State’s scholarship total was 13. https://t.co/Knnqe0ZuDE

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@gif_tannen Also, you're welcome to give your name so we can research your credentials and how they relate to OSU. I don't hide mine. Not that you are either, but anyone can say anything behind a handle.

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And, for the vocal minority that wants Josh fired, the same Social Media group EVERY program that isn't perfect has, you can get it done, I promise you. Write the check, then keep writing checks as to your plan to hire the next coach, then keep writing checks as to how you plan to pay for the next roster, then keep writing checks as to the plan to sustain that financial commitment. That's what "real" change would look like, and all you need to do is look at football right here at OSU for your proof.

Or, you could just donate those same monies to a program that has been a pitcher or position player, or injury, or maybe even some bad luck away from doing exactly what we've all wanted it to do. With a coach who can't even answer what coaching at OSU means to him because it chokes him up.

Those are your 2 choices.

Anything short of either of these 2 is just empty, and that's how anyone with any kind of authority in this situation will, rightfully so, view this. So, if you want to bitch beyond those parameters, you're doing so in a forest with no one around. #gopokes #okstate

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@gif_tannen And, yes, I'd weigh his voice over yours or mine.

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If I were him, I'd listen to any and all that have the unique connections of how advertising, baseball overall, OSU baseball specifically, Oklahoma people etc. All work. It's not one or the other, it's all of that together.

I can't imagine anyone in the OSU advertising department being too arrogant to listen to and absorb the name Gary Ward and listening to how he did it. Literally the exact thing we're trying to do now.

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And, if you don't believe me then go watch/listen to my interview with Gary Ward who had to do this exact thing at this exact place for the exact sport in question. Listen to how he pitched things and found sponsors and was able to raise enough money to build a stadium and play for championships.

You don't know more about how this works than he does at OSU, and specifically for baseball, I'll promise you that.

So, don't believe me. Believe him. And, what you'll find is he and I are saying the exact same things and have had the exact same experiences building/maintaining a booster club/fund. Different levels of course.

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@gif_tannen So, I don't know what language you're speaking, but I know how both the baseball and advertising side works on all of this. And I'm speaking that language.

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@tyler42young 13 scholarships $400,000 between rev share and NIL combined. At this point, they've been told to operate next year on the same budget as this year

That will put us somewhere close to if not exactly dead last in the Conference I'm allocated resources.

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The only sponsors that would okaY baseball while saying no to football would actually be donors, like Charlie Fowler using the Old IGA. Or the guys at the Old Stillwater National bank etc...

If the soonsor is strictly transactional, and doesn't care which sport succeeds, they're gonna want the most visibility.

Good luck convincing so and so business, with no attachment to any sport, or OSU for that matter, that they're gonna make their money back on a baseball billboard. Gary Ward would be the first one to tell you, those folks are donors. They're not looking to turn a profit.

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Baseball has a certain value, football has significantly more. You're cutting your nose off to spite your face if you're seeking advertismet for baseball while bypassing football to do it

If you offer dollars for dollars, why would any sponsor choose baseball over football? And, seeing that football is much more valuable, why would we want any sponsor to choose baseball over football?

If a sponsor is not a donor, they're looking for a business transaction, and the job if the athletic department is to maximize that transaction.

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@DonnellKolby @TTUsonlycandy @Pokefan99 Okay, like I said, good thing is, we'll see.

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@DonnellKolby @TTUsonlycandy @Pokefan99 So, instead of using department revenues to build a new locker room, or however they have used it in the past, they're now, instead, going to re direct that money to NIL deals. And, as the article states, do that ON TOP of fully funding the maximum number of scholarships.

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@DonnellKolby @TTUsonlycandy @Pokefan99 This artcile is proving exactly what I'm telling you. They're moving money for the athletic department into NIL deals. Every sport will benefit from that

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@DonnellKolby @TTUsonlycandy @Pokefan99 Fine...good thing is, we'll see

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@DonnellKolby @TTUsonlycandy @Pokefan99 And Im telling you that's not the information Im getting and I trust my source.

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@gif_tannen No, just solutions, that's all.