@EvrenSAuthor If your methodology uniquely concludes that modern Greeks lack continuity with the Hellenes, perhaps the problem isn’t centuries of scholarship—it’s your methodology. Xx
@oxpal@robin_j_brooks You’re conflating “largest fleet” with “largest violator.” Those are not the same thing. Show evidence of breaches, not assumptions based on tonnage.
@EvrenSAuthor This reads less like history and more like an attempt to deny Greek continuity while insisting on Turkic exclusivity. The double standard is impossible to miss. Ps Citing a list that AI gave you to prove your point doesnt make your point more valid. Just sayin
@jurgen_nauditt Biggest merchant fleet ≠ biggest culprit. Greece’s shipping sector is global, privately owned and governed by international rules. Punish sanctions violators wherever they’re from—but stop using Greece as a convenient headline.
How would Greeks feel if another European country did the same to us?
You mean-entirely hypothetically, of course-if a European country armed, with advanced weapons and fighter jets, the very state that formally threatens Greece with war and occupies part of Cyprus?
Funny you should ask!
@EvrenSAuthor Your bibliography is about how states are constituted and recognised in political science. It doesn’t demonstrate that historical identity depends on uninterrupted statehood. That’s the distinction you still haven’t addressed.
@reieurope “Greek shipowners” ≠ “Greece.” You’re attributing the actions of private commercial actors to an entire nation while ignoring that shipping is a global industry governed by international rules. That’s rhetoric, not analysis.
@LiinamaeO@tashecon You’re mistaking one KPI for the entire balance sheet. Greece is one of NATO’s highest defence spenders (~3% of GDP), protects the Alliance’s southeastern flank, and has supported Ukraine. Security burden-sharing isn’t measured by a single chart.
@EvrenSAuthor You’ve redefined “historical identity” to mean “uninterrupted statehood”—a criterion historians don’t use. Civilisations survive political change. Greek identity persisted through language, culture and self-identification for millennia. That’s the distinction you’re missing.
@robin_j_brooks Greece controls roughly a fifth of the world’s merchant fleet, so a high share of Greek-owned tankers is not, by itself, evidence of state policy or intent. The policy question is why sanctioned trade remains commercially viable despite years of coordinated restrictions.
Robin is clever. He knows EU countries consistently block sanctions proposed by other countries when their interests are not aligned. But his unashamed and continuous Greece-bashing is now reaching preposterous levels. Does @BrookingsInst stand by such repeated vitriolic remarks?
@Un_falangista@UnamunoAgain Repeat after me: Ancient Hellas ≠ modern Greece. The Hellenic world stretched across the Aegean into Asia Minor. Bronze Age history isn’t defined by today’s borders.
Algunos queréis proyectar fronteras del siglo XX al mundo antiguo y solo demostráis vuestro analfabetismo
Turquía fue griega, os guste o no.
Me da igual a qué lado del Egeo esten Troya, Éfeso, Mileto o Halicarnaso. Todas fueron tan helénicas como Atenas o Esparta.
Y querer ponerle un pasaporte contemporáneo al rey Pirro, Aristofanes, Aquiles o Tales de Mileto es, con todos mis respetos, no tener ni puta idea