Perhaps as significantly, the space that BF sits in as a AAA title requires it to try and draw a "casual" playerbase. If movement didn't evolve, if gameplay mechanics catered only to OG BF players, and if it focused too heavily on "realism", it would simply not sell well enough.
There are pts that this post misses. 1st and most important, there are many diff types of BF players who play it diff ways & this has been the case since at least BC2
2nd, movement has evolved in the fps space in general, not just with BF. COD wasn't a movement shooter originally
Saying that players who don't like certain movement mechanics in Battlefield because they're just "bad at the game" is a non-sequitur.
I agree, the movement isn't difficult, and killing players slide-jumping isn't either. That's not the issue.
The real problem is this.
- It changes the pace of combat and alters the feeling of gunfights to where they become less readable, and more annoying to play fundamentally;
and more importantly:
- It shifts the tone of Battlefield from the "grounded in authenticity" mantra Battlefield had, which players have come to expect from it in the market, to something much arcadier
I'm happy to support more movement options as long as they fit an authenticity and believability line, but it seems even asking THAT is too much for some reason.
We praise vehicle design when they move naturalistically, why is infantry combat an exception?
The heart of the argument here is about Battlefield's tone, which affects how the gameplay is designed, not because some players can't "get good".
You don't get players complaining about emergent movement mechanics in Rocket League, even from trash cans, because they expect it from the game's tone, Battlefield players do not.
And no, citing bugs like BF3's aim stabilization jump, BF4's various movement exploits, etc. as prooftexts to justify any and all future crackhead movement mechanics in Battlefield, doesn't work either. Should we also then bring back Battlepacks just because they were in BF4 too?
I get there are those of you that don't care about Battlefield's tone, therefore there is no "movement line" to cross, but you're ignoring massive swaths of players that DO care and will just straight up not play the game as a result, as you often recommend them to do.
A vast amount of players come to Battlefield to play a combined arms military shooter with the "appearance of realism without being a simulator" gameplay loop that Battlefield UNIQUELY offered as a middle ground in the market, but EA and DICE have abandoned that middle ground to trend chase other games. This is why it's annoying and there's so much complaining about things like movement and skins.
You can continue to attack the caricature of a 0.5 KD player crouch walking to bolster your position, but you still can't define a well-reasoned upper limit for movement mechanics because you DON'T have a standard.
An appeal to the skill gap is not a standard, and it does not define an upper limit for movement whatsoever. What then would be keeping DICE from adding wall running, double jumps, or even phasing through walls if it can be argued those could potentially take a vague amount of skill to perform?
The bounds are defined by Battlefield's supposed authentic tone, which has been erased in favoring of emulating other games.
If you just enjoy Battlefield's metamorphosis into a movement slop shooter like every other FPS out there, that's fine. We can disagree.
Just don't expect the franchise to be anything more than a cheap, more plasticky Call of Duty substitute going forward.
I think a giant imperial military blob with an unwieldy and overfunded warfare state making catastrophic tactical decisions by misusing expensive equipment in unsuitable conditions is among the most believable things in that entire movie
@darkosupe You're a good egg 😁
I appreciate your contribution and good faith in trying your best to make a franchise I love great.
I also have enjoyed your attic renos.
And I will always think of this random person in the internet any time I use olive oil.
@tfjaybee I still haven't listened to Iced Earth or Demons and Wizards since Jon Schaffer did Jan 6th, and I miss that shit. That said, the man did own up to his role, maybe I'll break that ban soon.
@TacticalGramps@Avoristrib Yeah the smart ones do rolls at intervals to avoid that, I'm the same way. If it's 15 seconds I might stick but elsewise i will keep clicking around or go to YouTube.
According to License Global, Jack and Sharon Osbourne have confirmed that an A.I.‑powered version of Ozzy Osbourne is coming, built with Hyperreal to preserve his voice, image and movement as “digital DNA.”
Sharon said fans will be able to ask Ozzy anything, and “he will answer you in his own voice, and the answers will be what Ozzy would have said.” The A.I. avatar is planned to go “all around the world” for fan interaction. Jack added that the tech is shockingly accurate: “He will exist digitally as himself for as long as we have computers.”
The announcement arrives as global interest in Ozzy’s legacy continues to grow, from the upcoming biopic to the return of Ozzfest in 2027 and the ongoing “Working Class Hero” exhibition in Birmingham.
📸 - Billboard / YouTube
This New York Times piece is worth your time. Here’s what is happening, as simply as I can put it.
Back in January, Trump sued the IRS, an agency he controls, demanding $10 billion over the leak of his tax returns a number of years ago.
IRS lawyers did their jobs. They wrote a memo laying out the defenses that could beat the suit, including the fact that Trump filed too late. His own lawyer was in court when the leaker pleaded guilty in October 2023, more than two years before Trump sued.
The Justice Department never showed up to court. Never argued back. Never used the defenses sitting on their desk.
The judge got suspicious and ordered both sides to explain whether they were actually opposing each other or just colluding. The day before that brief was due, Trump dropped the suit.
Same day, his Justice Department announced a $1.776 billion taxpayer-funded “anti-weaponization fund.”
Trump gets a formal apology. The IRS agrees to drop any audits of him and his family, even though a 2024 Times report found a loss in an ongoing audit could cost him over $100 million.
The acting Attorney General, Trump’s former criminal defense attorney, picks the five commissioners who decide who gets paid. Trump can fire any of them. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are not ruled out.
This is the most corrupt thing I’ve ever seen from an American president.
Where in the hell are my Republican colleagues?
https://t.co/La0nlLuz1r
@nuke_235 Honestly i mostly play solo now, and spend most of my time sniping on breakthrough. I've certainly felt off since the new season started, I'm not sure if it's me or the servers or some of the gunplay adjustments, probably a combo tbh, but it's been a struggle.
@JulianJanganoo I still pop multiple per round, especially on Golmud. I take the motion mine and hold it until i get close and plant, it got a damage buff i think.
@iMajins_@Standingfast85 This is definitely not something new to BF, and requires circumstances where you get up close and personal. Arguably easier than it was in early games where movement was slower, but I'm perfectly alright with it.
@libriscent Do any other autistic people chew their food and have a drink to accompany it? Does that make sense to you? Or am I too quirky to be understood?