@SBLadyBrrrapTrd@TSN_Sports@leijonat@deb_teams@czehockey Well showimg Russian people that being pro war has no consequences is message i rather not send. Mamy Russians are tier 2 humans. Maybe we could be better off is U.S supported Nazis and not USSR.
@SBLadyBrrrapTrd@TSN_Sports@leijonat@deb_teams@czehockey Feeling worse for few players missing tournament than millions of people dying. It punishes whole nation since many Russian citizens would watch games. Leader values killing ukrainians more than giving young athletes changes to play that is unfortunate.
@User050477@TSN_Sports@leijonat@deb_teams@czehockey More about punishing Russia as a whole and common people getting punished. Shame for players ,but happens when you have imbecil dictator. Must be fun for defender look that we feel worse for few players than millions of innocent people getting murdered.
@Sakkamadakka@ve41191@rinalu_ Nice now show me how Estonia,ukrain,georgia,Armenia voted all between 80-99%. So yeah those parts wanted to leave . And you mean ww1 germany divided soviet union for half a year? I was focusing what happed during 1991. I'm not that well educated about ww1 i'll admit that.
@Sakkamadakka@ve41191@rinalu_ Did it happen as punitive measure or because people wanted to leave USSR by themselfs and system collapsed which ultimately led to this outcome. U.S helped USSR and many crimes were forgiven. While others got punished. I find it hard to see USSR as victim ,but all good for you.
@Sakkamadakka@ve41191@rinalu_ It's like others though we have understood this and moved on .but Putin still loves ruining regular peoples lifes for own fantasies :D. Bringing something back that was never sustainable or real besides in novels and poems waste of lifes.
@Sakkamadakka@ve41191@rinalu_ I have no trouble calling churchill for prioritizing military needs over human lives. Stalin did choose areas to starve and also choose certain groups of people to frontlines that had zero incentive to fight against for example finns. And those people happened to be Ukrainian.
@GDzavidan@RandomName451@KanervaHeimo@Die_Steiner Even if i acknowledge that my grandfather lost hes home island on Ladoga. I did like many Russian people that me and my father had met.I was never fan of Russian goverment or how some of lost land got treated. Nowdays it's hard to talk about russian people.
@GDzavidan@RandomName451@KanervaHeimo@Die_Steiner Finland defended own land and didn't get help from U.S. Russia got lots of help from U.S as lesser evil. Finland had to pay soviet union after war for "crimes". That had some good side effects like industralization. There was period where i had hope for Russia.
@GDzavidan@RandomName451@KanervaHeimo@Die_Steiner Some could argue one side had leverage and opportunity to choose and other didn't. Finland did bad things for reds after civil war and war crimes did happen against soviet people.
@Sakkamadakka@ve41191@rinalu_ Well depending on source old estimated 20-40million own people killed by stalin reality is closer to 6-12. Hitler killed about 15 million more people overall ,but less of hes own. Some stalin numbers includes him staving 5+ million people by exporting goods away.
@witsparks@Michael7ucci Yeah expanding business between European countries is painful. You can get big in Spain,but if you dare to try to expand to France you will get put 10 steps behind.
@CrazyHeadCoach@rinalu_ Stalin only executed,starved and tortured 8-20 million people for fun. 6 million Ukrainians starved to death because he exported their goods for guns. Later Ukrainians and other people that were seen as lesser got send to die to finns.
@pseudomanga@svegfinne@rinalu_ If you allow leaders to justify demands and wars for possible threats we would have wars everywhere. Poland would demand land from Germany and Russia. Baltics would demand buffer zone. Russia often finds themselfs starting wars somehow.
@Sakkamadakka@ve41191@rinalu_ Should Poland also demand some land from Russia and Germany to protect themselfs. Russia has plenty of poorly used land that they could give for Poland for their past crimes right? Stalin killed more own citizens than nazis,Ukrainians where left without food and send to Finland.