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@Vengeance_spl @euodeiocuitter @onlyarchangelI @Nokopanpan I concede that the recoil is likely more of a factor at large ranges than I give it credit. Regardless, I still think her overall damage should be toned down.

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@callowist @SamGoldFingeR69 Anything to say or did you just crumple?

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@Vengeance_spl @euodeiocuitter @onlyarchangelI @Nokopanpan Unfortunately the game released an unbalanced mess thay was fun at first until the honeymoon phase was over. Now it'll hurt too much to drastically change the game to be more interactive and fair cuz it'll feel sluggish in comparison.

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@Vengeance_spl @euodeiocuitter @onlyarchangelI @Nokopanpan Maybe, but I don't want just that.

I think most tanks and supps should do less damage than they do now.

I think most dps should have their movement toned down and a lot of self-sustain (such as temp hp) should be removed. I think most ults (especially dps) should toned down.

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@Vengeance_spl @euodeiocuitter @onlyarchangelI @Nokopanpan Yes, they are shit design. It's imbalanced. Those heroes should be buffed to be in line with Luna. Luna's damage should slightly nerfed. Most support needs their damage nerfed.

Hela is still fine. She deserved to be knocked down a bit, just like Luna.

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@Vengeance_spl @euodeiocuitter @onlyarchangelI @Nokopanpan Like you could literally strip her of the ability to heal other players and she would still be a better dps than half the dps cast. I don't know how that sounds balanced to you.

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@Vengeance_spl @euodeiocuitter @onlyarchangelI @Nokopanpan Entertaining the goalpost-moving, even if Luna has twice the recoil she has now, I think most balance-oriented people would tell you she should not be able to put out those numbers

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@Vengeance_spl @Nokopanpan @onlyarchangelI Do what you said and go test it. I'm literally doing it right now. Luna without idol does the same damage as Hela. With idol does even more.

Hela hitbox seems to be a pixel wider. I don't think that's a good enough excuse for Luna to be doing more damage than a s tier dps lol

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@Vengeance_spl @euodeiocuitter @onlyarchangelI @Nokopanpan That'd be a fine argument if the burst wasn't borderline pointless. The gap between the three hits is negligible. You're acting like it's crazy to hit all three. If you hit one, you're almost certainly hitting the other two.

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@Vengeance_spl @Nokopanpan @onlyarchangelI The absolute gall and irony to rip on others for not testing it when you clearly didn't yourself lol

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@Vengeance_spl @Nokopanpan @onlyarchangelI "Gets close" you two can feel free to stay in your echo chamber lol

Second range is 40+ meters, so falloff is in full effect for both.

Both ranges ttk difference were a few frames

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@euodeiocuitter @onlyarchangelI @Vengeance_spl @Nokopanpan Yea, for the same reason we're talking about Luna. It's okay to hate both

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@onlyarchangelI @dappanese While this video shows a team not really fighting back, you gotta admit that it is not really crazy to not want a support to have a hitscan ttk comparable to Hela while also having a log-sized piercing heal/damage beam, easy HARD cc, and one of the best ults in the game.

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@SalobreMon47 Everyone's mentioning vhs and recordings, but for me, our remote had a freeze button. It would freeze the frame. The show would still be technically running (you could still hear it going) but the picture was still.

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@smilkEz @KingGunner_ By that measure then OW is 6

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@dvamonster This is like seeing a grease fire start in your kitchen and instead of waiting 10 seconds for your partner to grab an extinguisher, you throw a cup of water on it thinking you're helping.

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@HenriqueAr54030 @PizzeroVendePan @Inspectorde1 Why not?

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@occuDec @CitizenRoby @KirbyKraftGames @elizasghost It doesn't block melees with stuns, like Doomfist punch or Brig shield bash

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@ShiftyShifts @ScottJund Who's trying to force him to play?

Did you concoct that and then get mad about it?

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@jaxonreborn @JaptheBaptist @shoes_god He has a blue check. He's farming engagement.