@rockreborn22@swamthetiber25@C2Antiquity@JPuncut And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
The Lord Says to His mother His hour has not yet come and regardless He honours her request , if you don't find it unique
@rockreborn22@swamthetiber25@C2Antiquity@JPuncut When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” 4 And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
@rockreborn22@swamthetiber25@C2Antiquity@JPuncut Maybe you should read the wedding at Cana , if you think she's not unique. You people are cherry picking , taking out of context etc. But it's not your fault the fault is on those who taught you.
@RealBenMichael He's the right state of mind and since he says his soul is longing he received the call , trust me many Orthodox people including my self who are not converts everyone got the call at some point of their lives. May the Holy Spirit leads him
@JBelcourt73@Fragbaza So you would rather ignore all the canons and let some Bishop even if he is the Patriarch of Constantinople act like he's above the canons just cause you hate some country ?
@Danielrich596@Rach4Patriarchy@MerlesWorld@paleochristcon About your question about Hell the Lord Is clear
“Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.”
Once there was a very sick man. This man tried everything he could: diet, exercise and different supplements, and though it helped him feel a bit better, the sickness still persisted and even got worse. Some of his friends told him to see a doctor, but the man was sure he could make himself well.
After much suffering, the man finally relented and went to see the doctor. The doctor told him: "There is nothing you can do on your own to heal from this disease. You must take this very bitter pill. The pill will at first feel like you are dying, but you must trust me and the medicine. It will heal you."
After much struggle, the man finally accepted and took the very bitter pill. It felt like his entire life was being wasted away, but as the doctor promised, he soon discovered he had new strength in his body, a strength he had not known before.
A few weeks later, the man began having symptoms of the disease again. Saddened by this, he called the doctor. The doctor sent him a list of diet, exercises and supplements. The man was shocked and called the doctor again: "You told me there was nothing I could do on my own to heal from this disease!"
"You are already healed from the disease, but your body was so affected by it, that you must now persevere in discipline, consulting me and evaluating what your health is. These are not simply rules you must follow, but habits you must develop. If you persevere, you will do better and better and will discover levels of health you could not even imagine. But if you do not persevere, the effects of the disease can still kill you."
I have heard different ends to this story. Some say that the man submitted to the discipline and became an athlete. Others insist that he took the rule given by the doctor, applying it to the letter without developing the habits.
Others still, say the man only stood by the original statement of the doctor and had "assurance of his health", refusing that his health was dependent on the habits he needed to develop. "Sure, I can maybe follow the rules the doctor gave me" he told himself, "but that is just in gratitude for having healed me." Sadly this man remained sick, though believing he was healed, and never became the athlete he had in fact been born to be.