But @JustinPetersMin, don't countless men drive thousands of miles to see the one you refer to as "greater than Martin Luther," the one and only @johnmacarthur ?
This is the kind of thing that makes no sense about Asbury. Why did these men have to drive 9 hours to Asbury to pray 30 minutes? They spent 18x as much time driving as they did praying. And what led them to believe the Holy Spirit is there at "the altar" at Asbury in a more tangible/real/special way than He is where they began their 9 hour drive? Is He not omnipresent?
Are their prayers more effective at Asbury than at their homes? Is God closer to Asbury? Is there a celestial portal that has opened up over Wilmore, KY that is not open over, say, Walla Walla Washington? And how long will this portal stay open?
And why have thousands from all over the world flocked to a place in Kentucky to catch "the anointing" or "the fire" so they can then carry it back to their respective homes?
That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
I have no doubt these men are sincere and I do not disparage their motives, but this kind of thinking is much more at home with pagan religions, Islam (think Mecca), Word-Faith/N.A.R. and Roman Catholicism than biblical Christianity. This is the bad theology and practice that comes from bad/weak teaching.
@deanlentini I think the same goes for Rick Warren's *The Purpose Driven Life.* People say it's heretical but when you ask why, they're afraid to admit it's cuz some blogger in a basement said so.
@aigkenham The Bible was written primarily as narrative. This is not (& never will be) a liberal agenda-it's just the way God intended to communicate *his* story. (And no, story is not a bad word-it's just a way of speaking. When someone says "story of my life" we all know what they mean.)
@OPshawJUSTCshaw@JamesRHannibal@aigkenham I tend to agree, that it can be a rite of passage in a way. At the same time, if you steep your child in fundamentalist ideas/principles, it is really detrimental to their growth.
@aigkenham@chriskhall And Christian institutions don't send people to hell? They have proven very detrimental to people's faiths & the reason a) people have a very shallow/unbiblical faith & maybe later b), they leave the faith altogether.
My dad always taught me that the lie closest to the truth is the most dangerous. Popular homeschooling curriculums like Abeka use God's Word to promote anti-biblical, anti-God, even anti-human ideas. Think twice before homeschooling your children through a "Christian" curriculum.
Well, I realize this post may "stir the pot" somewhat, and I'll brace for the responses! Should Christians send their kids to public schools? Now firstly I want to say it's the parent's decision as to where they send their kids to be educated. And I do recognize in a fallen world there are all sorts of family issues (eg: single parent families) for varied reasons.
However, at the very minimum, each Christian should build their thinking on God's Word in regard to the training of children, and do the best they possible can, with much prayer & God's help and hopefully the help of God's people in the church, to attain to what God instructs as much as we are able.
From God's Word we do get answers to: Who owns children? Parents & ultimately God. Who is responsible for the education of children? Parents, & in particular Fathers as the spiritual head. What is the priority of education? Spiritual/biblical worldview. What should we understand about children? They are not miniature adults & they have a sin nature. What warnings are there? Bad company corrupts bad character.
Many people in the church have told me their kids should be in the public school to witness to other kids. But what's the biblical basis for this? When I ask, I'm usually told, "we are to be light and salt in this world." Yes, true, but one can only shine light if one has it to shine. Yes, Matthew 5:13 states "you are the salt of the earth," but Mark 9:50 also states, "Have salt in yourselves."
Your kids can't be salt till they have salt. And by salt it means they are to be filled with biblical truth, but also prepared with answers (1 Peter 3:15) to be able to withstand the attacks of the devil in the world they live in. That's why @AiG provides all sorts of curricula for churches & homes to help raise generations filled with biblical truth & equipped to defend the Christian faith against the attacks of our day.
Now Scripture also warns in Matthew 5:13, that "But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot." In other words, contamination destroys.
Before our kids can be a witness to the world, they need to be filled with salt, as uncontaminated as possible, to know what they believe and why and be equipped to defend their faith.
Let's face it, most of the public school system indoctrinates kids for 6 or so hours a day in the secular worldview of evolutionary naturalism & sexual humanism. Most churched kids have not survived the public education system and have walked away from the church. Very few exceptional kids from church homes survive and are able to be salt and light. Most become severely contaminated. This is reflected in the fact there's been a massive generational loss from the church.
Bottom line, are you putting your own kids at risk from contamination because you want them in the system to witness to others? But how much have parents & the church really made sure such kids are truly filled with salt to be able to do this? Most churches have not taught apologetics and most have compromised God's Word in Genesis, opening the door for that contamination to take hold. Most father's have not been the spiritual head of their house as they should. Look at the evidence, most of the younger generations have walked away from the church. Generation Z is the first post-Christian generation & very atheistic in worldview.
Remember, when your kids are born, they don't know about the bible, or Adam and Eve, or sin, or the promise of the Savior, or the Flood, or Babel, or the cross, or resurrection, or the saving gospel, or how to answer the attacks of our day. Our job as parents is make sure they are taught and equipped so they can impact the world for the Lord Jesus Christ. Where are your kids spiritually? What legacy are you leaving in the younger generations? Who really has the greatest educational impact on your kids and grandkids?
@JamesRHannibal@aigkenham If the homeschooling curriculum is bad & teaches non-biblical ideas, how does that help kids' eternities? Why send them down the road to a) deconstruction or b) a superficial faith?
@aigkenham What I was exposed to through Abeka was far more harmful than what I was exposed to in public schools, & it also proved very detrimental to my spiritual development.