@AveugleMan@allenvonghornet I'm not arguing 16 year olds need to become che guevarra to develop as people in their adolescence but there's entire glaring themes the game likes to bring up then move on from then pose the writing as this thoughtful epiphany of teenagers coming of age. I am calling it out breh
@AveugleMan@allenvonghornet It's a game where kids go against the embodiment of death and fight against misinformation and a magic murderer, and also a game where the themes are about self actualization in teenagers and developing their identities.. do you think a feminist is like some militant rebel?
@AveugleMan@allenvonghornet And thats why Im precisely critiquing the game's shallowness or regression on whatever themes they introduce. Persona 5 does it okay but they had the exact same issue with Ann where she had a feminist awakening but was then subject to being a sexy nude model and cougar joke...
@AveugleMan@allenvonghornet And the anime girl thing is from the beauty pageant segment where she's sent in as a gag to be this cute shy girl in a bikini, undermining or making fun of her arc before where she was struggling mentally due to such a harshly patriarchal and misogynist environment
@AveugleMan@allenvonghornet And if they're constantly trying to take on that mantle, then yes with full force they earn the criticism and scrutiny that comes with trying to write social commentary. They want the subject material in the game and so there is a right to talk about how they wrote it
@AveugleMan@allenvonghornet I don't see how her getting sexualized into being a shy uwu teen is relevant to her character development. And 2... persona has always been trying to say things about society or reality bro they're writing about the human condition and psyche in all the games lmao
@AveugleMan@allenvonghornet Also the segment after her dungeon turning her into some like shy uwu sexy anime girl in a bikini is very pathetic. You can claim naoto experiences this dysphoria because of how misogynist the detective industry is but the game kind of doesn't care to go past the dysphoria lmao
@AveugleMan@allenvonghornet I mean I dont care if she has to be trans but the game kind of doesnt care about critiquing the patriarchy either and solely labels her desires as childish but then just honing in on her needing to embrace traditional femininity instead
@alluringskull The other issue is black and brown people would absolutely be treated worse than her in japan lol. Just taking any opportunity to position themselves as being vulnerable likr everyone else
@pspspcq4@_Eito_Blehh Bringing up the whole "everybody gets hated on by irrational people" thing is dodging the fact that misogyny is so rampant in gaming. It's abnormal that women get this special brand and strategy of discrimination against them that anyone can cite by memory from how much it's used
@pspspcq4@_Eito_Blehh Yeah but again, women get singled out or unique treatment for being women. Men won't be told to go back to the kitchen or go back to onlyfans, they won't get called e-whores or boosted e-girls. It's misogyny because it's very specialized hatred against women and femininity.
@pspspcq4@_Eito_Blehh Men who only play gun and ball games are never belittled for their games being inherently easier, they're never slutshamed as being big boobed men who only go into online gaming spaces to show off their boobs or ass, they're never categorized as dumb ditzy bimbos.
@pspspcq4@_Eito_Blehh It's a misogynistic problem because the way the women demographic in cozy games is treated or talked about often carries misogynistic origins like slutshaming women, calling them less intelligent or hardworking than men, or how some cozy games or girly games are "mom" themed...
@Kemmo_Ado@Liv1ngPerson Like I don't see gun and ball gamers being sexualized or called sluts or e-thots, their game preference isn't belittled as not being real games- in fact its often about telling them they're not the Only games to play. Yet the genre that predominantly women play isn't a "real".
@Kemmo_Ado@Liv1ngPerson Yeah but gun and ball gamers are dunked on by other men and it's usually about calling out certain demographics' unnopenness to other genres. Cozy gamers aren't barred to this one genre and often return to it because of misogyny in other spaces or because its in their palate
@_Eito_Blehh "misogyny is everywhere why does this cozy misogyny matter" when izzy also talks about how misogynist gamers are to women and cozy gamers that they end up staying in their lane cuz cozy games are their usual safe space. People who can only see one side of the 20 sided die bruh.