@SteveDavies365@st89758@tonyannett I also do wonder what kind of Christian? Is Orthodox Christian going to be part of it or if Russia is not accepted therefore other Orthodox Christian countries will not be accepted as well? (Romania, Bulgaria, Greece but I guess Greece will be an exception for obvious reasons)
@SteveDavies365@st89758@tonyannett Is the UK going to be recognized as European in this new civilizational state? Given that you are out of the EU now.
@SteveDavies365 Sounds a bit like what happened in Denmark and their Social Democrats. They did lose voters because of their immigration stance. I guess Burnham knows about that though and is willing to take the risk. I thought Labour will remain cosmopolitan but lets see.
@SteveDavies365 and someone has to fill the space they leave on the cosmopolitan side and win over the Labour voters who are not happy to go Blue Labour.
@SteveDavies365 Would that also mean that some of the cosmopolitan Labour that is not willing to go Blue Labour will move to the Greens or some other cosmopolitan party? I guess what I am saying is that if Labour also introduces tough immigration rules then they align themselves to the right
@SteveDavies365 Nationalist-cosmopolitan, is that a possible combination? Then Labour and Reform are competing for the same voters? I don't know enough about UK politics but aren't the Greens the radical cosmopolitans? Where are the liberal cosmopolitans in that scenario?
@SteveDavies365 Going "Blue Labour" sounds like going soft national colectivitist (the new realignment right). Other than the point about giving more power to the local governments, such a move seems like the Labour party going to the right? What happens to the left? Who will take that place?
@Mamba9898@EuropeanPan I am not so sure about that. Plus its not about how different they are but about how other Balkan countries react. You have enough crazies out there.
@amul_pandya@SteveDavies365@SteveDavies365 Great as always. One thing that bothers me is those that do see the world as a competition even if we do not. The Chinese are reasonable overall but others not so much. Trump, Putin etc. What should a government do about them without going protectionist?
@eurochallenges I think its correct. Nationalism united people into a bigger polity even though they did not even speak the same language - dialects are basically languages and one them was chosen as the formal language. Nationalism came as an idea after the concept of feudalism disappeared
@ViktorBlaskov@eurochallenges Countless examples of city-states that worked pretty well for long long time. Today you have very successful city states too so I don't think your argument is correct. The shape and form of the state evolved in the past and will keep evolving.
@SteveDavies365 Historically, countries like the UK, the Netherlands and the Nordic countries have been the most capable of preserving democracy. Hopefully this time they succeed again. Other EU countries are less likely, sadly my own is very unlikely.
@phl43 Do you think, given the experience of this war, that Trump and his admin will calm down in the foreseeable fututure once they take the L in Iran? Will be great to have a bit of a respite.
@phl43 I think the primary reason is that people generally have more opportunities to choose what to live their life. We are not constrained by nature and mostly not constrained by society.
@phl43 My parent's generation (now in their 50s) had no smartphones yet the birthrate was below the replacement rate. But I do agree that technology has an effect. I don't think the solution is to ban technology though. It won't fix the problem and it will make life worse.