Phil

For the second time now: nope. Bakunin was right then and he still is now. Yes I am jet fuel. The pic is of me proposing to my wife.

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A thread about the the way 2 party partisanship seeks to neuter all political will from any view that questions political consensus forced upon us by the ruling class. I'd love for people to read it.

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There is something very selfish & maybe narcissistic in that political point of view, where people's actions and motivations are pruned away so that all is left is the same distorted topiary showing an imagined impact on their political party: the Dems.

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@karalas @Brockman001 @520Gazorpazorp @felixducte @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies True, but my role in this conversation is to converse, not convince. I don't want to change your mind. You have your reasons and concerns. What I say may influence, or point to bigger problems. MW is framed by people who don't want us finding real, bigger, solutions.

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies It is when that idea of working towards "something" is just paying the idle rich to be idle.

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies Why not? The banks do not have the funds they pretend to lend out. Our debt to them is one big lie that keeps everyone paying them at each other's expense: business loans, car loans, mortgages, student loans, all ways working people pay so the idle rich can remain idle.

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@Brockman001 @karalas @520Gazorpazorp @felixducte @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies Biden won't do a fucking thing. All he has to be is not trump. You said that yourself.

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies So, you're an old school republican. Thanks.

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies Funny, because I paid off mine quickly but I realize that I was lucky and see the scam for what it is. You pretend it is "working towards something" when it is paying money to an idle ruling class that did nothing to create anything but print fake money.

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@karalas @Brockman001 @520Gazorpazorp @felixducte @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies You must live where you have that luxury. Many don't, by design. We need massive changes to fix anything. Locally produced, accountable, food is important I think.

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@karalas @Brockman001 @520Gazorpazorp @felixducte @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies This is how the .01% keep the working class & poor divided & bickering among themselves. Too low a minimum wage lets them pay you less than you're worth. In real inflation-adjusted $, what would your type of position make in the 60s or 70s? The $ goes to bank fees & the idle rich

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies Yep, you got yours. Fuck those who don't. You are why the GOP and Dems are basically the same. You would have been a Rockefeller Republican if you were 20 or 30 years older. I can see why Biden is your guy.

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@karalas @Brockman001 @520Gazorpazorp @felixducte @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies Food from a distance requires a lot of trust that clearly has been abused. Not everyone lives where they can know their farmer or look around the place. Globalism only made it worse. Less people growing their own food benefits only the 1%, & it may prove disastrous now.

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@karalas @Brockman001 @520Gazorpazorp @felixducte @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies No. The biggest complications come from exemptions that screw over a lot more workers than most people realize. It doesn't hurt rural states. Ag has its own massive problems, where small scale labor intensive farms always get the shaft & Monsanto & ADM have too much influence

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies More affordable: that sweet spot of life long debt, treating education as job training or employment gate keeping. Education should be free, & should create fully functional citizens that understand logic, rhetoric, basic science, basic rural/suburban/urban life skills & the law

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies Only to the extent that I think you are working off a script handed you by a PR firm or a troll farm like the one David Brock ran or runs. He, like Biden, treated Anita Hill like shit but is a darling of the DNC now. You're cut from the same cloth.

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies No, it just rejects an "I got mine" attitude that treats poor people like garbage. I paid mine off fine. The debt kids today are saddled with from state schools, not even private schools, is much much worse in a much worse economy with far less jobs before Covid-19 then I had

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies Fair point, but I wanted to ask. How many they have is a bit of a non sequitor. During the 2016 election some article talked about how many fake bot account twitter followers and FB Friends made up Trump, Clinton, and many celebrities "fan base" making it a faux fan base.

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies right, you want to find that sweet spot so people can just be in debt the rest of their lives to an idle class that does nothing but print fake money.

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies Yeah, you're best interests are counter to mine. That's been the whole point of this conversation. You pretend Trump is an existential threat while he's just more of the same. But once people talk about M4All you go all republican/Wall St Dem on us. It offends you more than Trump

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies Hey, quick couple of questions: how have you been on here since 2010 with only like 41 followers? Did David Brock let this account sit idle for along time? Are you a CTR Troll?

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies You also said you'd sit on your ass and if a third party just shows up you'd consider voting for it. That party would obviously be for M4All because it is the single most unifying policy idea even among Dems in spite of your willful ignorance about it. So, nah: you're unreachable

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@Brockman001 @felixducte @karalas @AllenHyman5 @BenjaminPDixon @NoFascistLies That's on you then, isn't it?