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[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@annielcrawford @sinnerandrew My greater point is all the original Protestant traditions continue to work on visible unity to this day. (Very slowly) It's not something to be scoffed at and part of the problem is a number of Traditions insist they are the One True Church denying historical reality.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@annielcrawford @sinnerandrew This comment confuses non-denoms with actual Protestants. Actual Protestants maintain there is invisible church unity with a goal of visible unity. The name "Protestant" implies you still care about being separated.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@annielcrawford @rossbyrd Some traditions believe themselves to be fallible and some of us are born into them. We don't select them from a choice of "fullest truth" and we acknowledge other Christians where we see them. No relativism required just a belief that Christians are united in Christ.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@rossbyrd @annielcrawford Yes a participatory definition but they always save the "fullness" for themselves don't they? Through their magnanimous non-judgment your participation must not be acknowledged because it threatens their one true church claim.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@rossbyrd @annielcrawford Pageau explicitly said he can only see where the Church is, not where it isn't. For him the Body of Christ, the Church, is Orthodoxy, full stop, and you're outside. There are no "particular forms". I don't think you're listening to how he uses "Church".

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@MichaelLouisTh1 @PageauJonathan This vid helped me understand "God became man so man could become God" is a meme that conceals what they're actually trying to say.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@grailcountry Pageau's generous example about Salvation happening outside the Church is Trajan. He doesn't dare say God is at work anywhere but in the EO.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@rossbyrd @annielcrawford Except when Pageau talks about "The Church" he means his church. There is no Mere Christianity.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@KeenanMiller7 @annielcrawford That's probably a comforting thought for you about the narrowness of other Traditions. Here's Bavinck discussing the width and breadth of Salvation.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@kayla_koons @PageauJonathan @OrthodoxEthos @Acts17David @gavinortlund The classical Reformed position is not to speculate on which individuals are Elect because that's God's hidden counsel. It's not far from ordinary, extra ordinary distinction Pageau makes.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@BoochParadise @PageauJonathan @OrthodoxEthos @Acts17David @gavinortlund OSAS is a meme that isn't helpful.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@annielcrawford @PageauJonathan @OrthodoxEthos @Acts17David @gavinortlund Good news Annie. You can be saved like Plato or Hadrian. The EO won't speculate just because you're outside of the Body of Christ.

[Erick Ybarra @ErickYbarra3]

I just listened to a stream with 2 Eastern Orthodox (Dr. Nathan Jacons and Fr. Joseph Lucas) where they go to great lengths to try and say these concepts are alien to Eastern Orthodox theology.

Can someone tag them to see what they think of this?

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@PaulVanderKlay @GrimGriz Single women should be gleaning and sneaking onto threshing floors. The Bible's pretty clear.

[John Barach @John_Barach]

"The early Church knew nothing of our distinction between glorified or canonized saints and 'ordinary' members of the Church. Holiness pertained to the Church and all those who constituted the Church were holy because they were members of a holy people" -- Alexander Schmemann.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@BenGresik And no catering, just church ladies. As the Lord intended.

[Phlebas @Phlebas_]

@desertcynic Hmm. So basically the Belgic Confession.