@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 You keep saying “he could have made it work” when you have 0 proof and all the signs point to the opposite. Abel’s value was much lower than klassen’s. Him keeping abel has nothing to do with who he liked more, it was about getting the deal done
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Phillies were a win away from 2 consecutive NL pennants, and they are the leading candidate to do it again this year. That’s pretty damn good
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Simple. Success=ring. He also has run the phillies much differently than those teams. You yourself acknowledged that he rebuilt the phillies PD department. The phillies scouting has also improved tremendously under him. He’s a top 5 exec in the game
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Draft position doesn’t mean shit lmao. That was 4 years ago. It’s way more relevant to look at what he is now. Neither side wanted to move abel. Phillies would have been selling low and the angels would have been passing up on klassen who had major helium
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Abel’s value was nowhere near Klassen’s at the deadline. No chance the angels say yes to that. And all those retired gms are only retired because they sucked at their jobs and no one wants to hire them. Dombrowski has 2 rings and the phillies have been excellent under him
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Ahh yes the networks. Filled with guys who wanted to work for teams but couldn’t lol. Instead of being vague, tell me who else you think they could have given up, because besides painter and abel, there was no one else
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Yeah, you know that shit won’t carry over to a different org right? New coaches who will have new ideas. He was far from a finished product with the phillies and still had a long way to go. The angels aren’t good enough at pitching development to see it through
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Out of curiosity, who else would you have wanted them to give up? Pitching prospects only since that was clearly what the angels were looking for
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Pretty rich that you think that. Never said good pitchers can’t be drafted late. I know the angels are awful at pitching development, and I know the klassen only has 2 pitches and can’t throw strikes. All of that is reason enough to believe he’s destined for a bullpen role
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Totally missed the part where you said they could have given up a different prospect. How on earth could you possibly know that? The people outside MLB orgs who think they know more than the people in them are mind-bogglingly delusional about their own intelligence
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 You provided 0 evidence in support of your claim. You just vaguely referenced the fact that good pitchers can be drafted anywhere. Used 0 stats, 0 analysis. Should have known from the jump when you said you didn’t care about 1 ring, which is absurdly entitled to say
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Yeah I think I’m done here. You’re below the intelligence threshold required to have this discussion. Have a nice night!
@onecjlee @Fearthechop10@EricCross04 Ok now I know you don’t pay attention to baseball. Klassen has been absolutely atrocious with the angels. He doesn’t have a third pitch, and he doesn’t have the command to be a starter. His ceiling is a solid middle reliever