A lot of pagans worship daimons and don't know the gods.
If your faith or experience leads you to believe that the gods don't care about humans, are capricious and capable of evil, or are simply nature spirits, then you're worshipping daimons and mistaking them for gods.
The problem isn't worship; we should honor the "earth-dwelling spirits," as Pythagoras says. But it is impious to mistake them for gods.
"I, who have met with many of these [atheists] people, would declare this to you, that not a single man who from his youth has adopted this opinion, that the Gods have no existence, has ever yet continued till old age constant in the same view"
- Plato, Laws X
In this podcast episode, I talk with the founder of the Classical Wisdom Tradition to discuss the significance of Platonism, focusing on the new book 'Flower of the Mind.'
Yes,
"But the Berecyntes, a tribe of Phrygians, the Phrygians in general, and the Trojans, who live about Mount Ida, themselves also worship Rhea, and perform orgies in her honour; they call her mother of gods, Agdistis, and Phrygia, the Great Goddess; from the places also where she is worshipped, Idæa, and Dindymene, Sipylene, Pessinuntis, and Cybele."
Strabo, Geography 10.3.12
O Magna Mater, womb of stars and source of all becoming.
In your depths, all things are born, and to you, all return.
Grant us the strength to endure, the grace to grow,
And the wisdom to embrace the dance of life and death.
Hail, Mother of the Gods, eternal and unshaken!
Monotheism vs. polytheism is a false dichotomy.
Christians pushed the narrative that they were the real monotheists and that Gentiles were polytheists. It's clear from primary sources that Gentiles were never polytheists or monotheists.
@Hyperaionian @Timeless_Tribe @KornelS89696 This is a broad current in Platonism that often gets overlooked. The One is the transcendent God, but the Immanent God is the Intellect/Being itself and the same as Jove. They are both God but in different ways.
@Jon00304986@parhypostates@Hyperaionian @KornelS89696 Butler may want this to be true, but we can't call his ideas Platonic then. It's Butlerian polytheism.
@Hyperaionian @KornelS89696 @Aarvoll_ I agree, this interpretation pretty much dissolves the tensions in Proclus and brings it in line with the rest of Platonic metaphysics.
It also shows how far off polycentricity is from the original.
@parhypostates@Hyperaionian @KornelS89696 So, super-essential refers to the ultimate unity of the entire series of a god, not necessarily transcending being itself? I think that makes sense.
But where do you get that understanding of super-essential? Is It implicit or explicit in Proclus?