𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭

she/her, Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist, still educating myself.

Marxists' rhetoric should serve the education of the proletariat not ones reactionary tendencies

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

"The attitude of a political party towards its own mistakes is one of the most important and surest ways of judging how earnest the party is and how it in practice fulfils its obligation towards its class and the toiling masses." V.I. Lenin Left Wing Communism

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@TheSalikino @AliceBright_ there isnt? What are you attempting to debunk here

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch This discussion is about the theoretical differences. We can have this discussion on this after this discussion

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch that's not a primary source. Come on. We both know repeating yourself will not further this discussion. Why do it at all? You're not going in-depth enough for actual discussions on it. And again the article you gave isn't actually on topic it a general argument against vanguards.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch of course take your time just message me when you're finished its albeit a decently long read. S4A has an audio book but he is quite annoying in it due to constant comments.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch ok, thank you. If you desire we can move it to private because i believe that allows for longer messages. And is less messy then commenting

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch im asking you to read a specific text. Because it goes over what is being talked about. You gave me a text to read and I gave you one. Stop trying to ignore the discussion. We are talking about ideological disagreements. I am giving you a primary source on that disagreement.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch discussion is not the same of learning from the primary source. You should recognize that. I'm going to end the conversation here because you refuse to actually educate yourself. You do not even know what Lenin's and Kautsky's main disagreements are.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch i literally do not care. Kautsky had ideas which progressed Marxism which Lenin developed more thoroughly. Kautsky also had incorrect ideas which Lenin denounced. You are asking for Dogmatism.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch im not even asking you to agree im asking you to educate yourself on Lenin's and Kautsky's actual disagreements. Im asking you to educate yourself.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch You repeat events with no context. Anarchist Spain had prisons for political prisoners including fellow proletariats. Does these random tidbits stop you from engaging in actual discussions? why won't you read? will reading something that disagrees with you shake your ideology?

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch you refuse to actually engage with Lenin and Kautsky in any other way besides through sources which agree with your position. If you can implore me to read you can read to.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch it also uses the term totalitarianism which is quite frankly a useless term. I hope we can agree on at least that.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch this text is arguing more against vanguardism then actually arguing than that Kautsky and Lenin shared the same positions. Which they don't. Kautsky post 1910 was a staunch anti Bolshevik, anti soviet democracy and sided with the Mensheviks in at least theory.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch im referring to Kautsky opportunism towards WW1 where he called for the nation proletariats to take up arms against fellow proletariats.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch that's a singular critique Lenin had which I think we both agree with. Please i implore read Lenin's own words on Kautsky in his text meant to explain his disagreements with Kautsky.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch what do you think Kautsky and Lenin's disagreements were? And again the disagreements only emerged in the later 1910s where Kautsky revisionism became far more open. the work three components of Marxism came out in the 1908.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch I would ask you to read Lenin's Proletarian Revolution and the Renegade Kautsky. Honestly, such an incoherent idea.

[𝙻𝚒𝚕𝚒 ☭ @Plus_Lilith]

@Brojep0451 @luxembutch Excuse me? He didn't reject the soviet system; he only saw a period of maintaining capitalism to further develop past the semi-feudal conditions. Capitalism does not equal a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. Also, there were still soviets under the NEP. This is ridiculous.

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[chimera @chimeraxmachina]

People should be more worried about German militarism. Major manufacturers are moving to war production, the government is brining back conscription and has been ramping up domestic surveillance and police repression. This won't end well.