The level of access I have to information through LLMs would be inconceivable to my ancestors.
Not impressive.
Not convenient.
Inconceivable.
For most of human history, knowledge was locked behind distance, class, language, institutions, memory, and luck.
Now I can ask a machine to cross-map fields before breakfast.
The danger is thinking access means wisdom.
It doesn’t.
@John_W_Maki@MillerLabMIT@AnnaCiaunica Alright, I will take a crash course on those and get back to you.
In the meantime, what is your North Star? What do you hope to achieve with your framework?
Preprint is fascinating, for sure.
The main place I’d be careful is the jump from timing directionality to “routing information.” The result shows a theta timing-lead relation around FEF that changes with choice/feedback. That is fascinating, but it is not yet an anatomical information-routing path.
Same with “validated control principle for cognition.” I’d call it a candidate frontal timing principle, especially because the task is answered by fixation and FEF is eye-control-facing. For a full control claim, we would need the BG, thalamic, cerebellar, superior-colliculus, and brainstem machinery in view.
I am going to have to look into your "Rovelli/Fields relational state + Friston active inference + Young control-node architecture + Rosen similarity criteria + homeorhetic adaptive regulation" stack. Any recommendations on where to start?
Congrats, this is awesome work. I really enjoyed digging into the paper.
The theta-phase coupling, feedback-dependent directionality shift, and theta-beta / beta-gamma nesting are all fascinating.
One place I’d gently soften the language is around “FEF selected and broadcast choices and errors.”
Given the task was answered by fixation, FEF seems better framed as the gaze-output-facing cortical surface where task-relevant choice/outcome information became phase-organized. The data show selective theta coupling and predictive directionality around FEF, but not final selection or error broadcasting by FEF itself.
That distinction makes the result even cleaner to me: theta appears to coordinate timing around an eye-control output surface, while the downstream selection/admission/update machinery likely still involves BG, thalamic, superior-colliculus, cerebellar, and brainstem routes.
I read through both the SEP agency and determinism pages. I’m glad you sent them. They were useful, but my main takeaway was almost the opposite of closure.
Neither page seemed to give a simple settled definition that dissolves the issue. Both opened directly onto unresolved questions very close to what we were discussing.
One useful takeaway for me was that an agent can at least be approached as one who performs intentional actions, even if that gets complicated quickly.
A second was that agency is not one flat thing. There appear to be dimensions or kinds of agency: basic action, intentional action, automatic subroutines serving higher goals, self-governed action, shared agency, etc.
A third was the gap between language and the thing being described. Humans seem to sense something real around agency, responsibility, authorship, constraint, and action-space, but it is hard to articulate cleanly.
That pushed me toward thinking in degrees rather than binaries. Not simply “do I have agency or not?” but: how much room to move do I have? What intentional actions are actually available to me? What internal capacities, tools, skills, social permissions, and constraints expand or shrink that option-space?
That also seems to be why the topic matters so much. Most people seem to want more agency for themselves and their children, and people generally become frustrated or harmed when agency is stripped away. So maybe agency is not “good” in itself, since a lie or manipulation can also be intentional action. But agency does seem closely tied to human flourishing when bounded by healthy constraints.
@micahgallen Cool study!
They should be careful about saying the error was outside the hippocampus.
CA3 to CA1 fit test(inside the hippocampus) is a perfect candidate mechanism for what they observed.
This is a really thoughtful post.
I had to reread it a few times to grasp it, but I see 2 great distinctions:
1. science does not produce logical certainty from observation alone
2. experiments are not just “measurement.” They are imaginative, theory-loaded attempts to make reality answer a specific question.
I love a good distinction, well done sir!
@ebarenholtz@guilhermeotina Language and syntax is a constraint structure, beneficial for human cognition.
Language doesn’t think in its own or have its own “continuations”. Those are a combination of software programming and human language patterns.
@guilhermeotina@ebarenholtz Generally, you have the right idea- Language is not the origin source of cognition.
While language is not preinstalled, I wouldn’t call it “late” either. Kids respond to words(especially names) well before the age of 1.
From the lower back perspective, It’s a high-load isometric exercise. That is the opposite of Full range of motion, which is better hypertrophy and caries a lower injury risk.
If you like to deadlift, then go for it.
But, there is a structurally higher risk profile than other options.