"Think you, 'mid all this mighty sum
Of things forever speaking,
That nothing of itself will come
But we must still be seeking?
"Then ask not wherefore, here, alone,
Conversing as I may,
I sit upon this old gray stone,
And dream my time away."
– William Wordsworth
"We talk of the immense number of Books, the Volumes ranged thousands by thousands—but perhaps more goes through the human intelligence in 12 days than ever was written."
— John Keats, in a letter the day after sitting down to read King Lear once again
@mpmcsweeney Concerts still are $35, though. The quantity of seats and popularity of the artists just means people see an outsized amount about arena mega-shows online.
@MelkiteMessiah@jp54362 If it’s not clear enough in the post, note that it’s a trimmed down version of a paragraph from the encyclical so you can read the full version or even the full section or even the full letter to get more and more context.
"human beings ... are called to self-transcendence ... Herein lies the radical departure from Promethean dreams: what saves humanity is not enhanced self-sufficiency, but a relationship that liberates, a communion that transforms."
- Pope Leo XIV, MAGNIFICA HUMANITAS
@KhonWillia3446@g_shullenberger To approach things less hierarchically: it would just be radically different. The full encyclical, though, addresses considerations such as the possibility of transcendence through forms of love and relationship.
@KhonWillia3446@g_shullenberger It would add an interesting dimension to how we view Christianity to discover intelligent alien life, but this is working from a baseline belief that humans are made in God’s image. The aliens maybe too (Pope Francis said he would baptize them), but not a human-made tech.
Context: Specifically the Pope says AI systems do not undergo experiences (such as joy and pain) and do not possess a body, and some tech people mistakenly think it’s a counter to say we can just link the systems to various 3D shells.
Which among other things misses that it’s insane to imagine purposefully introducing pain, mortality, and genuine awareness of evil to a thinking computer system.
The biggest thing I don't get about the "YET!" contrarianism about the Pope's "So-called artificial intelligences do not undergo experiences" comment is, do you want to put an AI system in a body that can feel pain and judge good and evil? The thing that got Eve killed?
@annagrad78 I’m referring to people QTing the Pope (who doesn’t mention consciousness) and saying it’s wrong-headed to make such claims when AI soon will match those goals.
Human experience is embodied in a way LLMs can’t understand. (LLMs are also already embodied in a very different way.)
@KhonWillia3446@g_shullenberger This gets to a couple of the misunderstandings. The Pope never mentions consciousness in the encyclical. To his point on undergoing experiences, experiencing electricity is clearly different from human emotion. And it is human-centric, because humans are made in the image of God.
@MS23840062@sonyatweetybird@davidchalmers42 He's right, though. If you think AI is important, it's worth understanding its limitations. Nothing is gained from pretending tech is doing things it is not.
@lydialaurenson@g_shullenberger Surely after folding clothes millions of times, the robot's experience must foster a deep, intuitive understanding of the function of clothing and of fashion and come to recognize that it itself is naked. It's exhibiting all the outward signs of interacting with clothing.