Nate 🌲

Conservative Liberal | Narod Bezmolvstvuet

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@kingofthecoastt @AwayBerk Makes sense. Thanks for the thorough explanation!

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@sable98677 @byst @SenWhitehouse @AFLCIO 1) They actually do none of those things. You are deranged, and cannot face the real data.

2) WHY do they drive emissions? BECAUSE we cannot build clean energy!

We are not going to impoverish ourselves to satisfy people like you, sorry.

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@sable98677 @byst @SenWhitehouse @AFLCIO Ok? And how’s this relevant? If the voters voted 20/80 for an objectively bad policy, does this change the fact that it’s a bad policy?

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@AwayBerk At the end of the day the transfer is almost the exact same. Is there any real point in making such a change to the system we already have (more or less)?

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@AwayBerk The difference here would be between government risk adjustment within community rating and government subsidies based on risk. The risk isn’t really all that different. The data has to exist either way, no? The latter would also probably be more politically fragile.

[clara the urbanist @SlopHq]

a certain kind of environmentalist will tell you we have ten years to decarbonize and then defend a review process that uses seven of them. the planet is on fire, please submit written comments before the close of the 90 day window

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@wonderbreader Those are externalities, yes. Great job buddy.

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@wonderbreader I know the definitions. You appear not to.

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@wonderbreader “and makes externalities more expensive” you are jumbling your buzzwords

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@wonderbreader 1) The climate is not the only concern of the government

2) It wouldn’t pass without it, so it’s still net positive.

[Aidan Mackenzie @AidanRMackenzie]

BAAJA’s opponents are just throwing stuff at the wall now

NEPA affects everything the gov does (~200k actions per year, only 0-5 for detention facilities)

Opposing BAAJA because of this tiny effect is like opposing repealing Trump’s tariffs because that would make metal for detention centers cheaper

The far greater affect of NEPA reform is faster gov action, more vital infrastructure, and disproportionate benefits for clean energy

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@sable98677 @byst @SenWhitehouse @AFLCIO On point one:
Data centers 1) Reduce energy costs on net for consumers. 2) Do not use a statistically significant amount of water. 3) Provide major tax relief for property owners. 4) Improve the national economy.

Happy to elaborate on any of these.

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@sable98677 @byst @SenWhitehouse @AFLCIO 1) Data centers are good. Build more of them

2) If given the choice between easier to build all energy or easier to build none, the former is better for the environment, as clean energy is more efficient.

That is, unless you hate humanity and want to make us poorer.

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@A_Iniguez @wayfarer679 @billscher Elaborate

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@A_Iniguez @wayfarer679 @billscher What specifically is incorrect there buddy

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@A_Iniguez @wayfarer679 @billscher lol

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@A_Iniguez @wayfarer679 @billscher Reread this convo. Tell me exactly what I got wrong

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@A_Iniguez @wayfarer679 @billscher And now he runs away.

[Nate 🌲 @PushkinLiberal]

@A_Iniguez @wayfarer679 @billscher Indeed you did. You correctly assess now that it will cut benefits, not add to the debt.