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[llook @QItian72]

@AJ121_football 梅西的五��比赛都在裁判的优待下，还有荷兰法国英格兰的莫名其妙的状态和不敢进攻的情况下

[Toni Kroos @ToniKroos]

Football won

[Tosin🌹🇨🇦 @virus_tosin]

@TouchmineX Let’s settle the debate.

[llook @QItian72]

@khalidmalinguur

[Ahmad - 121 Football @AJ121_football]

THREAD:
Video Analysis of Cristiano Ronaldo's Striker Work Against Spain.

- Runs in Behind (0:00 - 3:08).
- Positioning for Crosses (3:08 - 5:50).
- Positioning for Lay-offs (5:50 - 6:18).

Conclusions and detailed commentary below.

[llook @QItian72]

@AJ121_football 足球世界里有假球吗

[llook @QItian72]

@Jaybrooke21 你能想象20年以后的亚马尔是一个只会头球和门前射门的人吗

[llook @QItian72]

@AveiroPrince_ 有���能是世界杯

[llook @QItian72]

@SJIC250066 @CabineSport 你确定你后面说的是真的吗

[llook @QItian72]

@utdyudy 而且他还踢不进😂

[llook @QItian72]

@Oluwakhufraya @Rmadonyfc_ 不打自招😂

[llook @QItian72]

@ttatat1912 全世界的球迷都面临同一个烦恼

[llook @QItian72]

@Mr_wiseguy_ @krtksk 你怎么这么急？

[llook @QItian72]

@AJ121_football 一位球员能操纵裁判当然也能操纵���他队伍里的球员

[llook @QItian72]

@SantiSkywalker2 @mbafraaude 那你就别看

[Kimi Regal @RegalKimi]

After Ronaldo won EURO 2016 while Messi was still without a senior international trophy, a common argument across football media, punditry and mainstream football discourse was that international trophies were not essential to determining individual greatness. Football was said to be a team sport, and a player’s legacy should not be reduced to what he won with his national team.

At the time, Messi had lost four major international finals with Argentina and had even retired from international football after the 2016 Copa América final defeat to Chile.

A few months later, Messi returned. What followed was an unusually busy Copa América schedule. The tournament was played in 2015, 2016, 2019 and 2021, four editions in just six years. Many observers could not help but notice that a player who had repeatedly fallen short was being given more opportunities to win in a short period and rightly so. Eventually, Messi won the 2021 Copa América.

For years, the football world had been told that international trophies were not necessary to be considered the greatest of all time. When Messi lacked an international trophy, the importance of international success was routinely downplayed.

Similarly, when Messi lacked a World Cup, it was not considered essential to being the GOAT. Once he won it in Qatar, however, the World Cup was elevated from being one achievement among many to the achievement that supposedly settled the GOAT debate forever.

To many Ronaldo supporters, this is the clearest example of shifting goalposts in football history. The standards appeared to change at every stage until they aligned perfectly with Messi’s résumé. What was once irrelevant became important. What was important became essential. And once Messi achieved it, the debate was declared over.

In Qatar, Argentina received five penalties during the tournament, a World Cup record for a single team in one edition. Several refereeing decisions involving Argentina remain debated to this day, including Messi’s handball incident against the Netherlands that some believe warranted a second yellow card.

For many critics, these were not isolated incidents but part of a wider pattern they believe has followed Messi throughout his career, where controversial decisions repeatedly seem to fall in his favour. They point to numerous moments over the years where they believe punishments that would have been applied to other players were overlooked when Messi was involved. Some supporters have even argued that similar concerns resurfaced only recently, after another incident in which they believe Messi was fortunate to avoid a red card.

Whether one agrees with that view or not, it has become a significant reason why many Ronaldo supporters remain sceptical of the narrative surrounding Messi’s achievements and the way they are discussed by the football establishment and mainstream media.

For many Ronaldo supporters, the issue has never simply been about preferring one player over another. It is about what they perceive as inconsistent standards. They see achievements weighed differently depending on who accomplished them. They see one player protected from scrutiny while the other is subjected to it at every turn.

That is why many continue to side with Ronaldo. Not because to many he is the greatest to ever kick a ball or he has won every trophy or because he is beyond criticism, but because they believe the standards applied to him have often been harsher than those applied to his greatest rival.

They would rather support a player who loses with his honour intact than celebrate victories they believe are surrounded by unanswered questions.

As José Mourinho once said: “If I have to win in that way, I would be ashamed.”

For them, the issue is not simply who won. It is whether the criteria for greatness remained consistent throughout the debate. In their view, they did not.

[Gaetan Tout Simple. @GTSytb]

En 2010 : Messi n'a ni gagné la Ligue des champions ni la Coupe du monde, et pourtant ils ont changé les critères du Ballon d'Or pour qu'il repose sur les buts, et ils lui ont donné le prix.

En 2011 : Cristiano a marqué plus de buts que
Messi, mais ils ont dit que les trophées étaient le critère, et Messi a remporté le Ballon d'Or une deuxième fois.

En 2012 : Cristiano a remporté plus de trophées, mais ils ont donné le prix à Messi sous prétexte qu'il avait marqué 91 buts en une année civile.

En 2019 : Van Dijk a gagné la Ligue des champions, a été élu meilleur joueur d'Europe et meilleur joueur de Premier League, mais ils sont revenus sur leur décision et ont changé le critère pour que les buts soient les plus importants, et Messi a remporté le
Ballon d'Or.

En 2021 : Lewandowski a marqué plus de buts, a réalisé une saison individuelle historique, et a gagné le prix du meilleur joueur FIFA, mais le Ballon d'Or est allé à Messi à cause de sa victoire en Copa América.

En 2023 : Haaland a remporté 5 trophées, dont la Premier League, la Ligue des champions, la FA Cup, la Coupe du monde des clubs et la Supercoupe de PUEFA, en plus du prix de meilleur joueur d'Europe, de meilleur joueur de Premier League et du Soulier d'or. Et pourtant, le Ballon d'Or est allé à Messi à cause de sa victoire à la Coupe du monde 2022, alors qu'en 2010 ils disaient que la Coupe Du Monde n’avait aucun impact.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 (les fans de Messi n’ont honte de rien).

[llook @QItian72]

@laligafraudss 说明他并没有参与其中

[llook @QItian72]

@TimelineCR7 在中国这已经发生10年了