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[Qwert5240 @Qwert5240]

@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 You STILL ignore the empty tomb and the apostles' conviction that they saw and spoke to Jesus. Grief hallucinations? Then explain PAUL, who persecuted Christians! Why did Jews embrace a crucified Messiah? And if Jesus' body was available, why didn't the authorities produce it?

[Qwert5240 @Qwert5240]

@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 The Gospels themselves were composed within decades of Jesus' death, while people who remembered him were still alive.

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 Meanwhile, Paul's AUTHENTIC letters were written 20 years after Jesus' crucifixion. He personally met Peter and James, Jesus' brother. The resurrection was already being preached BEFORE those letters were written.

[Qwert5240 @Qwert5240]

@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 Socrates? Plato and Xenophon knew him, while Aristophanes portrayed him in a SATIRICAL PLAY. Their accounts differ substantially, and none is a perfectly neutral. Yet historians examine these sources critically instead of screaming "FICTION!" every time they encounter bias.

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 Pythagoras? His major surviving biographies were written roughly 700–800 YEARS after his death. His life became so heavily mythologised that historians still struggle to separate fact from legend.

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 Spartacus? The fullest surviving accounts come from Plutarch and Appian, roughly 150–200 years after his revolt. Earlier references exist, but they're much less detailed.

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 Alexander the Great? We have coins, inscriptions and Babylonian records from his era. But our surviving detailed narratives, including those of Diodorus, Plutarch and Arrian, were written CENTURIES after his death. His story also accumulated legends and claims of divine ancestry.

[Qwert5240 @Qwert5240]

@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 Your TikTok insults don't change historical facts. You clearly don't understand the difference between contemporary evidence, surviving biographies and later legends. So let's go through your examples, since you're so confident.

[Qwert5240 @Qwert5240]

@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 We have earlier written records of Jesus than of Alexander the Great, Spartacus, Pythagoras or Socrates. He's better documented than all of them. And WHAT contradictions? Name them. Prove mistranslations. Prove people added to the Bible. Where's your evidence? Your sources?

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 What's embarrassing is your arrogance when discussing something you clearly know absolutely nothing about. You dismiss authentic historical documents as fiction, ignore established scholarship, and mistake childish insults for arguments. Your confidence is astounding.

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 So fictional that historians and archaeologists study it seriously? Seven of Paul's letters are accepted as authentic historical documents. Comparing firsthand letters from the 1st century to Chaucer's fiction is embarrassing.

[Qwert5240 @Qwert5240]

@KRM7N @BalboaOli5736 @korrathetaymi Biology doesn't work that way. People didn't magically mature faster in the 7th century. A NINE-YEAR-OLD is a child, and puberty isn't adulthood. Bukhari 5134 confirms consummation at nine. Muslim 1602 records Muhammad trading slaves, not to free them. Read your own sources.

[Qwert5240 @Qwert5240]

@KRM7N @BalboaOli5736 @korrathetaymi Your argument was that Jesus couldn't be God because He experienced fear and sorrow. I explained that Christianity teaches He is fully divine AND fully human. Jesus repeatedly foretold His Passion and freely accepted it. Now you're dodging the response. Read the whole Gospel.

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 So your explanation is that Jesus' followers collectively imagined His appearances, while Paul who had PERSECUTED them also experienced an appearance and converted? Paul records both group appearances and his own (1 Cor 15:5–9). What evidence supports your hallucination theory?

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 Are you seriously denying Paul's own words? We have SEVEN letters widely accepted by historians as authentically written by Paul. In 1 Corinthians 15:8, he explicitly says the risen Jesus appeared to HIM. In Galatians 1:13, he admits persecuting Christians. Learn the sources.

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@KRM7N @BalboaOli5736 @korrathetaymi Since when is a 9 yesr old considered mature enough for sex? Bukhari 5134 says the marriage was CONSUMMATED at 9, not merely celebrated. And Muhammad himself traded enslaved people. Islam didn't abolish slavery. Read your own religious texts before lecturing about Christianity.

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@KRM7N @BalboaOli5736 @korrathetaymi Jesus is FULLY GOD and FULLY HUMAN. His human nature experienced genuine fear, suffering and anguish. That's literally the doctrine of the Incarnation. Being afraid of death doesn't mean being forced to die. He knew what awaited Him and STILL freely chose the Cross.

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 Try again. Even agnostic historian Bart Ehrman accepts that Jesus' disciples genuinely believed they saw Him risen. Paul personally claimed an encounter. People lie isn't evidence they lied. If you're accusing them of fabrication, prove it.

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@and_catch_fire @TheHistoryGuy07 Nobody said unexplained = God. Christians draw conclusions from the WHOLE picture Jesus' divine claims, His ministry, crucifixion, and resurrection testimony. Try again.

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@KRM7N @BalboaOli5736 @korrathetaymi Muhammad didn't abolish slavery. Sahih Muslim 1602 describes him trading TWO enslaved people for one. And Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 explicitly states Aisha was SIX when married and NINE when the marriage was consummated. These are YOUR religious texts, not accusations I invented.