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We are committed to raising the alarm about the tyranny of the government and returning to the origins of the values we fought for in the American Revolution.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy again holding Lincoln to a higher standard than Southerners. Lincoln was a racist but he believed all men are created equal & was vehemently anti-slavery. Your heroes are all slave-owning rapists and abusers, Lincoln is a saint in comparison.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy too much money using their power and influence to control politics and abuse human beings. To defend the Confederacy is to defend rapists and sadists. I'm assuming you aren't an elite and so it's also just cringeworthy to support powerful elites that didn't care about anyone else

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy again, you're holding the northern states to a higher standard than the South. The vast majority of chattel slavery was in the South. They were the ones breeding slaves, selling slaves, whipping slaves, raping slaves. They were the Epstein class of the time, elites with way...

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy There's a reason why even post-Civil War, poor whites in the South voted for Ulysses S. Grant because they saw the Republicans as promoting greater opportunity for the lower classes.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy That is not true. There were many that were opposed to slavery on moral principles and Lincoln himself believed slavery would eventually end if its expansion was stopped. Highly recommend his House Divided speech which shows how he thought the direction the US would go.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy everything you mention is irrelevant because the Confederacy was worse. If you want me to concede the US was bad in some ways, I already have said that, but the Confederacy specifically designed its Constitution to entrench slavery. It mentions slavery by name REPEATEDLY.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy Expansion of slavery kept the industry alive, the South knew (as well as Lincoln did) that if slavery was confined to the South it would eventually die out.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy the whole premise of a permanent union, there is no part of the Constitution that allows for secession. That's also how the Supreme Court has ruled and they define the law of the land, not you.

also please address my criticisms of the Confederacy, which you keep avoiding.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy after so that our country could build on its foundations toward a real sense of equality.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy against in the revolution. The Confederates were anti-American, anti-democratic (even at the expense of poor whites), and wanted to expand slavery. They were a great evil and I am glad they were defeated by the Union and that the 13, 14, and 15 amendments were passed shortly

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy Our Constitution required states to accept legal slavery because other states wanted it. That was the ruling of the Dred Scott Decision. That's what the people in the Confederacy advocated. That's why I hate the Confederacy.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy Which Founding Fathers states that individual states had the inherent right to secede? I'm not aware of any that made that argument. Jackson is not a founder, but he was very pro-South and even he argued they do not have that right. Which founders made the case for this?

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy From a legal perspective, yes, they must accept it. That's how the Constitution works.

The Confederacy broke the law of the land, whatever, I don't hate them because of the lawbreaking anyway, I hate them because of their desire to preserve slavery in perpetuity.

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@TheGrapeGatsby2 @e_joseph_murphy I'll admit, idk enough about the Articles to answer this. I know the Articles were a very weak central government & states had most of the power. Perhaps you're right that the states had full sovereignty. That's clearly not true for the Constitution tho, which is why it was made.