@MrAdnanRashid all the countries around palestine that have US military bases are complicit.
Any country fighting and advocating against this genocide is an ally.
there are different categories of rafidha. there are some who would be out of the fold of islam but proof needs to be established. and yes we can unite with them as a general principle. They are ahl al kiblah. Especially if uniting upon the good of preventing oppression and unjustice.
@Tilawatul_Quran yea its so sad that he respects the only people standing up for the kids in gaza and lebanon. he really needs sooooo much more guidance. me and you we are so guided though we dont need it we're good.
@MrAdnanRashid This is the problem right now Adnan. Put aside your differences.
Even if you have to shake hands with a disbeliever if he will help you stop this would you not take his help?
And would you not slap any bearded muslim who defends and supports this? It is a clear matter.
1. The Classical Shia Perspective
For classical Shia scholars (such as Al-Shaykh al-Mufid, Al-Saduq, and Al-Tusi), Karbala is not merely a historical tragedy; it is a foundational, cosmic event central to theology, faith, and salvation.
The Ultimate Standard of Justice: Classical Shia jurists view Al-Husayn’s stand against the Umayyad Caliph Yazid I as the definitive, divinely sanctioned paradigm of resisting tyranny, preserving the true essence of Islam, and standing up for justice (Adlah).
Cosmic Martyrdom and Intercession: Al-Husayn is viewed as an infallible Imam (Ma'sum) who possessed foreknowledge of his death and willingly sacrificed himself to awaken the Muslim community (Ummah). Classical texts emphasize that weeping over his tragedy, reciting elegies (Maqātil), and performing pilgrimage (Ziyarah) to his shrine carry immense spiritual rewards and grant his intercession (Shafa'ah) on the Day of Judgment.
The Inherent Illegitimacy of Tyranny: Karbala solidified the classical Shia legal stance that temporal rulers who lack explicit divine appointment or upright moral character are illegitimate, justifying spiritual and political resistance.
2. The Classical Sunni Perspective
Classical Sunni scholars (such as Ibn Taymiyyah, Al-Dhahabi, Ibn Kathir, and Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani) view Karbala with profound grief, universally condemning the killing of Al-Husayn, though they frame the event through a different theological and historical lens.
The Status of Al-Husayn
Sunni scholars uniformly hold Al-Husayn in the highest esteem as a beloved grandson of the Prophet, a noble companion, and a master of the youth of Paradise. His killing is viewed as a heinous crime and an immense calamity. Ibn Taymiyyah wrote in his Majmu' al-Fatawa:
"The killing of Al-Husayn was a catastrophic sin... and whoever killed him, aided in his killing, or was pleased with it invites the curse of Allah, the angels, and all of mankind."
The Legal Stance on Yazid I
While Sunni scholars universally condemn the tragedy, they differ on the specific ruling regarding the Umayyad Caliph, Yazid:
The Permissibility of Cursing (La'n): A segment of classical scholars, including Ahmad ibn Hanbal (in certain narrations) and Al-Taftazani, held that Yazid's tyranny and his ordering or celebration of the event justified cursing him specifically.
The Stance of Restraint (Tawaqquf): The majority view among mainstream classical Sunni authorities (like Al-Ghazali and Ibn Kathir) is to condemn Yazid's actions and character as a corrupt sinner (fasiq), but to refrain from issuing formal, individual curses (la'n), leaving his judgment entirely to God.
Mourning Rituals
Classical Sunni scholars generally oppose formal, public reenactments, self-flagellation, or institutionalized mourning rituals on the day of Ashura (10th of Muharram). They argue that Islam prohibits prolonged physical lamentation, pointing to Hadiths that encourage fasting on Ashura to commemorate the saving of Prophet Moses from Pharaoh instead.
@AbuGhazi811 yea because anyone who utters or writes the words ya husayn must immediately be takfired and anyone who defends them also takfired and should be killed. ok thank you for the verdict of the very quick court case honorable judge.
i don't see anyone slapping their cheeks or tearing their clothes.
Narrated by Abdullah ibn Umar:The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "When a man says to his brother, 'O disbeliever,' then it surely returns to one of them."
In another narration: "If it is as he said, [then it is as he said], otherwise it returns to him."— Sahih al-Bukhari (6104), Sahih Muslim (60)
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "Whosoever curses a believer, it is as if he has killed him. And whosoever accuses a believer of disbelief, it is as if he has killed him."— Sahih al-Bukhari (6047)
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "No man accuses another of wickedness or accuses him of disbelief, but it will rebound upon him if his companion is not like that."— Sahih al-Bukhari (6045)
Narrated by Anas ibn Malik:The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "Three things are the roots of faith: to withhold from [harming] anyone who says 'There is no god but Allah'—we do not declare him a disbeliever due to a sin, nor do we expel him from Islam due to an action..."— Sunan Abi Dawud (2532)
@the_criterionn@MrAdnanRashid@Haqiqatjou if you friend curse your mother, will you unite with him against someone who wants to kill your mother? No, you will argue with your friend and let your mother die right?
The innocent are being killed today but you will rather choose to argue rather than unite.
@AqidaDefence@MrAdnanRashid@Haqiqatjou Majority of classical scholars say military alliances and seeking aid from disbelievers is allowed under certain conditions.
Who told you it is not allowed? I already know, Saudi wahhabi propaganda.