Once I add a single EHG population on the right side, the single-wave model breaks down drastically. So, Vologda Mesolithic alone was enough to reveal that they are not directly cladal to each other.
Below a qpWave example. When I put only the Neolithic populations from the thread on the right side, and Karum and Old Hittite Period Kalehöyük on the left side, the test gives a perfect p-value, meaning that relative to the right populations, the left populations look identical.
For the Old Hittite period, it is exactly the opposite: every single statistic is significant, meaning they show excess Eneolithic Steppe affinity. This also translates into a required Steppe source in qpAdm, and qpWave would not accept them as a single clade.
As can be seen, these people corrupt genetics with their usual G25 garbage. Nobody knows how few SNPs are used for that PCA, or which base samples are included. The cutoff at 25 PCs is arbitrary, and the whole thing is a black box.
Trolls on here are still repeating the G25-based cope that Anatolian speakers, like the Hittites, had no Steppe ancestry. This claim can be formally refuted. The f4-statistics below ask whether the Progress-2 Steppe source shares more drift with various Neolithic baselines or ..
For the Old Hittite period, it is exactly the opposite: every single statistic is significant, meaning they show excess Eneolithic Steppe affinity. This also translates into a required Steppe source in qpAdm, and qpWave would not accept them as a single clade.
According to FTDNA, the V1636 common ancestor of Y148165 and V1274 was born in 5750 BCE.
V1274 is also not a lineage in itself strongly associated with the BA southern Caucasus, it was at most an assimilated lineage from preceding Steppe migrations.
Some people bring a single BA sample from Kalavan on V1636 as evidence for a general Kura-Araxes related spread of V1636 in West Asia, and this is based on nothing more than idiotic analogy. That sample, according to parsimonious FTDNA, is on V1636 > V1274, meaning unrelated ..
I also included the same test for Kura-Araxians since silly trolls on here argue that the excess Steppe affinity comes from Kura-Araxians. As can be seen, the statistic is non-significant, meaning Kura-Araxians don't have any excess affinity to Late Chalc. Arslantepe over Çayönü.
To the bulk of modern West Asian V1636 downstream of the parallel branch R-Y148165 from which the Proto-Anatolians ultimately descend. Our branch also includes the tiny bit of modern Armenians (~0.2%) on V1636. So, not even they descend from BA Kalavan.