The greatest trick ever pulled was convincing Americans that socialism is when the government does stuff.
Reactionaries can use it as an indictment, and liberals are dumb enough to argue for it that way. Its a self-fulfilling circle of defeat for the working masses.
Socialists look at wealthy men buying politicians and conclude the problem is the market.
Then they propose giving politicians even more power over wealth.
It's a bit like noticing the bartender waters down the drinks and deciding the solution is to let him own the distillery.
If your complaint is that government can be captured by the rich, the obvious solution is to limit what government can hand out.
Instead, socialism hands the government a larger wallet, a bigger stick, and more authority over everyone else's lives, then acts surprised when people compete to capture it.
The diagnosis is often correct.
The prescription is more of the disease.
"Land back" is an ideology for BUMS
It is a billionaire-backed ideology for people who have built nothing in their lives but want free, huge swaths of land & resources handed to them for free based on race.
"MY BLOOD SAYS I AM OWED FREE STUFF!"
It belongs nowhere in Marxism
Then stop saying "the left", motherfucker. Call them the liberals that they are. This page used to have nuance. It get it, western leftism is a fucking joke. I get it. The empire wants it that way. But this shit you are doing just helps the reactionaries. You are not turning people away from liberalism and towards liberation with these posts and comments.
I can give you examples, little bro. However the fact that you need examples is pretty embarrassing and an indictment of your intelligence.
You think companies don't control their supplies to manipulate pricing, maintain brand identity, or to drive up demand?
If you cannot even admit that without requiring examples, then you do not know enough for me to take this conversation seriously, which I shouldn't anyway.
@NoMarxisminUS@RockChartrand So, before I give examples, you are really telling me, right now, that you dont know that companies restrict or otherwise manage supply in order to maintain or increase prices?
Come on, man. I really need to give you case studies of this?
@NoMarxisminUS@RockChartrand You really need to me to tell you an example other than water, which I wasnt even going to mention?
You need to read up on economics.
Let me guess. You are equally unbothered by all the food we throw away?
Again, I argue for something specific. I have had people call it communism, socialism, anarchism, and even capitalism. Your clubs mean nothing, child.
As for economics and my comment:
Water does not cost money?
Companies do not keep stuff on backshelves to drive prices up?
Companies do not charge money for services/goods they pay workers to produce?
@NoMarxisminUS@RockChartrand That's one hell of an assumption. I vouch for socialism because I want people to own the places they work, help their neighbors, and take care of each other's children? I want my environment clean and available to the common people, and that makes me a socialist?
I'll take it.
@NoMarxisminUS@RockChartrand I tried to insult you using the literal definition of a word? What ideology am I simping for? Capitalism is currently failing anyways lmao.
And there's no costs or bureaucracy that would stop someone from freely using the public land to provide for themselves?
The issue at hand is the shit I am talking about. You are making assumptions. Your behavior indicative of a child lmao. Everything is about your team versus their team, right?
You're so focused on the real issues at hand that in a conversation about self sufficiency, you bring up George Floyd and act like I worship the guy?
You don't have all your marbles.