@GDbowserMobile@realRubenSim which it was made pretty obvious that the server had a good chance of having CS#M in there but ruben sim joined anyways, are we serious lol
That’s not the argument. Nobody serious is saying law enforcement can’t investigate these rings.
What’s illegal is untrained people (with no real oversight) possessing or viewing the material themselves. Possession is its own federal crime under 18 U.S.C. §§ 2252 and 2252A. Motive doesn’t matter here. “I was just investigating” is the easiest thing in the world to say after the fact. If intent overrode the act, every real offender would use the same line.
Courts and NCMEC treat continued viewing/downloading as ongoing harm to the child in the images, regardless of why you opened them. Paroline v. United States, 572 U.S. 434 (2014) already treated that as common ground: victims are harmed again every time the files get viewed. DOJ uses the same language in actual prosecutions.
And once someone untrained has “self-verified” the evidence by looking at it, you’ve complicated chain of custody and dropped a second potential offense into the case file. That’s a real reason law enforcement pushes back on people doing their own digging.
So no, vigilantes shouldn’t get the benefit of the doubt. Let the people who are actually legally allowed to handle those files do it.
Ruben Sim knowingly went out of his way to access illegal material of a minor. He shouldn't represent roblox child safety and needs to be investigated urgently.
https://t.co/iYMQlwfHEw
@HatsuneMiku119@benevolende We aren't saying "leave everything up to law enforcement"
the point is that it is very bad practice to break the law by interacting with the illegal material yourself.
It's unnecessary and even suspicious behavior from a "child safety advocate"
Ruben Sim knowingly went out of his way to access illegal material of a minor. He shouldn't represent roblox child safety and needs to be investigated urgently.
https://t.co/iYMQlwfHEw