Tony Arsenal

Husband | Father | 1788 WCF | OPC Layperson | Podcaster

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@Lord0fValinor @EvenWokerPresby Do you think the same of the session at Heritage OPC when they refused to investigate Lovelady because Eli didn’t have standing?

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

While the principle she is pointing out isn’t wrong, putting these two groups on the same continuum is.

Spangler is a racist who has fled church discipline and LARPs as a minister. McGowan has, to my knowledge, never been under discipline and is in good standing in the PCA.

[Megan Basham @megbasham]

Just wanna say, you can avoid both the Eli McGowan coalition AND the Michael Spangler coalition.

It can be done with just a little common sense and lot of Bible!

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@Lord0fValinor @EvenWokerPresby The session would be the pastor (teaching elder) and elders (ruling elders) of his local church. That is what Presbyterians call Original Jurisdiction. The session is the "church level."

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@elimcgowan @Fozzybear_Lives Eli, you and I have spoken before about how I think your behavior isn't helpful in advancing a fair trial in the courts.

Stop trying to adjudicate this on my feed. If Chuck has sinned against you, send a letter to his session.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@elimcgowan @Fozzybear_Lives Guy's, I'm not interested in two brothers fighting it out publicly on my feed.

You are both churchmen, handle it like churchmen.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@TaxSlaveDave Yes, a bunch of anonymous masked vigilantes with daddy issues.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@TaxSlaveDave I am not. Are you.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@Lord0fValinor @EvenWokerPresby If you aren't, then you're getting the same response Eli got when he reached out to Lovelady's elders in Texas, so that seems fair.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@Lord0fValinor @EvenWokerPresby Okay...

If you ARE a member of a PCA church then you have a right to file formal charges and if the session does not receive and act on them, then you would have a right to file a charge against the session with Presbytery.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@GuyJones1111 No, but not hiding behind a screen name is probably a start. You are basically a mean girl with a burn book.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@Lord0fValinor @EvenWokerPresby Are you a member of a PCA church?

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@TaxSlaveDave It’s amazing how many Batman LARPers come out of the woodwork on this stuff.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@GuyJones1111 No, I just recognize an immature catty person when I see them.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@GuyJones1111 that sounds exactly like something a teenage girl who is pretending to be an old man would say.

I bet you walked uphill to school both ways, right?

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@GuyJones1111 Get back to me when you have proof that you aren’t a teenage girl.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@Fozzybear_Lives Yeah, I wasn’t saying that flippantly. We have church courts for a reason.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@Fozzybear_Lives Seems like you might have a letter to write.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@LordTemplar1 I agree.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@LordTemplar1 This sounds like something a teenage girl pretending to be a middle age looser pretending to be a bold warrior for the truth would say.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@LordTemplar1 Again, I’m not sure I should be taking advice from a teenage girl, and I can’t know you aren’t a teenage girl, so I’m forced by way of reason and logic to ignore you.

Cheer and amen.

[Tony Arsenal @ReformedArsenal]

@LordTemplar1 Not sure it is possible to slander an anonymous person on the internet. You might not even be a human, lots of internet cowards are actually AI these days.