@Lumi_sg@reitan881@receipts_lol Land swaps don’t change geography. Settlements cut into contiguity. The offer was five enclaves separated from each other with no sovereign over its resources (borders, water, airspace) and no military to defend itself. That’s not a state, that’s a bantustan.
@Lumi_sg@reitan881@receipts_lol No it didn’t. Ariel and Ma’ale Adumim would’ve stayed with Israel leaving the West Bank into 3-4 sections, not including the patches of East Jerusalem, Gaza, and the fact Palestine wouldn’t haven’t full control of its resources. It was a bantustan offer.
@ShamsCharania@ramonashelburne I’d say the second apron has teams scared but PG is making $52 per year for two more years compared to $60 for JB for 3 years. Doesn’t seem to make sense
@snov4321@DollidarityArmy Occupation requires effective control, not settlers. Israel controls the border, airspace, water, electricity, & population registry. If a Palestinian needed medical treatment or had a child, they needed to report that to Israel. Israel was always & still is the occupying power
@snov4321@DollidarityArmy Token representation means nothing in a two-class system. Hamas is not a person; it’s a resistance group against illegal occupation. Before them came the PLO and PFLP. As long as there is structural oppression, there will be resistance.
@snov4321@DollidarityArmy Its size is irrelevant. Its actions are the problem. As a genocidal child murdering psychopathic apartheid state and as a settler colonial project, its existence is a crime against humanity.
@snov4321@DollidarityArmy Zionism is not your feelings. Zionism is a settler colonial project to maintain ethnic supremacy in an Arab land. Calling it Jewish self-determination is as insidious as claiming Jim Crow is about “white safety”.
@snov4321@DollidarityArmy Because there’s 2 billion Muslims and 15 million Jews so there will be an imbalance of states w/ religious majorities. Second, no Muslim nation grants rights to foreign Muslims while denying them of native non-Muslims as the Zionists does with Jews.
@JohnAKapica@SZade15 The Zionists continued (& still do) occupy Gaza. It maintains a blockade & seize & now has them in a concentration camp. Hamas is the only resistance group willing to take on the child murdering Zionist occupation. Also, you’re projecting. Rape is a daily occurrence by Zionists
@hegsadh@EveningSends@PeterBeinart I said fleeing persecution which is exactly what you stated earlier. It seems facts and logic are causing an issue on your agenda. If you disagree, feel free to respond accordingly, insults don’t work
@hegsadh@EveningSends@PeterBeinart Zionist came from Europe feeling persecution. Palestinians are those born in Palestine, regardless of its lack of statehood, just as there wasn’t a Native American state. The West Bank was named after Jordan annexation prior to that it was Mandate Palestine, not Judea and Samaria
@bengoods@PeterBeinart Never mind the so called “Palestinian state” still wouldn’t have control over its resources (borders, airspace, waters, foreign policy), split into non-contiguous cantons, no military to protect itself, & be completely subservient to Israel. Thats not a state, thats a bantustan
@bengoods@PeterBeinart You’re ignoring reality. Settlements arent suburbs, they’re ideological outposts built to extract land & resources from Palestinians and ruled by violent settlers who carry out lynchings against them. They are not people looking to live as equals in a future Palestinian state.
@bengoods@PeterBeinart How exactly do you plan to make that happen with settlements and roads fragmented Palestinian Territories into cantons? Also, how exactly does denying Palestinians their right of return adhere to equality. A European gained rights to a land that a Palestinian was born in.
@hegsadh@EveningSends@PeterBeinart Judea does not exist anymore, just as Gaul, Zaire & Mesopotamia do not exist, they are relics of the past. Using Jews as a proxy to colonize a land. The Zionists are not native because of religion, they are Europeans and Americans foreigners in Arab land.
@hegsadh@EveningSends@PeterBeinart The Zionists moved there as settlers, they were not born nor raised there. They are colonizers.
The Palestinian Arabs are native because they are physically there, either inside 67 borders or all of historic Palestine.
@hegsadh@EveningSends@PeterBeinart You’re once again using Jews as a monolith. You are native if you live in a place, not because of religion or ethnicity. The Zionist are foreign settlers while the Palestinians are natives.
No Arab country grants rights to foreigners that it denies to residents under its control
@bengoods@PeterBeinart Then explain it to me. How exactly would you solve the problem with the explicit goal for equality. It seems to me your advocating for a ethnostate and demanding Palestinians accept a bantustan