This last one was a great conversation on given the circumstances, what should be and actually can be done. Thanks for weighing in on this, @BugenhagenCon
Part 3/3 on "Saving the Sons of Missouri" with @RevBraats on @Gottesdienst2. (Link Below)
I think it was a good discussion and hopefully can be useful for people seeking to bridge the gap between the generations.
How to deal with changed circumstances and different perspectives and the accompanying generational divides?
May the Lord turn the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers.
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I'm trying to stay off social media during Gesimatide and Lent, but wanted to post a conversation I had with Pr. Peter Burfeind on the @Gottesdienst2 Crowd Podcast with @RevBraats concerning Christian Nationalism. (Link Below)
Hess & the conference goers have been slandered all week. I've been called pretty much every name under the sun as well.
I'm happy to have a conversation. However, please confirm that you're asking in a brotherly fashion and not as a gotcha question.
@toddwilken
1/This is such a drive by splatter argument dressed up in pseudo-intellectualism. @DrJordanBCooper just assumes the evil and bad faith of the unnamed people he attacks. Which is too bad since he has been blessed with gifts and has helped some folks come to Lutheranism.
@Daniel_Ross622 @WmWeedon Red herring. I’m not stating anything about enforcement, or how it would work. I’m asking you why you think what has been put forward by the people you are calling liars and deceivers is contrary to the Word of God, the Lutheran Confessions, and the Lutheran fathers.
I don’t think this has to be either/or. As is obvious from the history of the church with Constantine, et al.
But the implication of this position seems to be that it would be wrong for a nation comprised of (for the sake of argument) 100% Christians to enact legislation that is Christian. That’s the question that this line of reasoning raises: it sounds like you’re arguing that passing legislation that is Christian (in line with biblical teachings) is contrary to what it means to be Christian.
Red Herring: You are making an argument against something that no one has advocated (at least of the people mentioned in this thread).
And re: last point, the histories of the OT indicate that those legislators were commanded by God. So I’m not sure what point you’re making? Surely, you’re not saying God was mistaken and the kings shouldn’t have listened to him.
@Daniel_Ross622 I understand that. I’m still waiting for that evidence. I’m all for assertions. The Christian, as Luther states in The Bondage of the Will, delights in them. But I would like to see your evidence to the contrary.
Interesting that @DrJordanBCooper says he’s reached out to talk about this. I don’t recall that interaction or anything that might lead up to it. But it figures at the way he framed what Hess was actually defending.
@TheDonStein@blakecallens Be real, Don. The Gottesdienst crowd and others are all borrowing from this stuff too. Remember how that recent conference had an LCMS pastor defend chattel slavery, and was then given a standing ovation? It's nuts over here too. All the same crap.